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February 12th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
[...] have not watched Mr Wilders’ film, but I now will make a point of doing so. This case has done nothing to encourage “community [...]
February 12th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
The British Government has double standards, they do not allow your man in to the UK yet there are radical Muslim clerics in the UK that incite racial hatred yet the government does nothing for fear of offending the Muslim community. We are afraid of our own shadows in this country which allows radical muslims who believe in Jihad to spread their evil message while we sit back and do nothing, scared to be called racist.
Well the biggest freedom we still have is the internet keep spreading the message and keep hoping that ‘democracy’ will survive
February 12th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
if islam really was that bad as described in this movie, this film itself would be much worse than koran, the bible of islam.
i dont know wot this movie is trying to propose. asking ppl to join the anti-islamic movement? is that another version of wot the film is against?
it seems like the logic of this movie is fundamentally flawed. the director of this film is simply a hater against a particular religion not a self-labelled freedom fighter.
this is a great example of a double-standard political nonsense.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
I see 54 million Muslims in Europe, but I dont see all as radicalists. Most are normal people just getting on with their lives. The people described in the video are certainly dangerous and should be removed frm society. I am not a Muslim, but many of my family are. I chose freedom, but they are also free too really. This film shows a terrible side to Islam and would make anyone fear and thats what they want. I also believe that Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11. Ive seen lots of evidence to support the fact that the twin towers were brought down with military precision and they were. There were a few set to benefit hugely from the atrocity and the muslims were the perfect scapegoat. They ticked all the boxes -ruthless and hostile and now its a snowball out of control. You only need to use Gallileo’s theory of freefall to realise that the twin towers were brought down by controlled demolition. The people who really need to be brought to justice are happily going about there business and they are laughing and apploarding videos like this,
Adam
February 12th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
a great film that shows the true intentions of Muslims. Get these people out of our countries, stop giving them aid, stop using my taxes to pay for these people who seem to wish death on anyone that does not agree with their perverse view of life.
Vote BNP!
Stop all this rubbish!
February 12th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Its a very nice movie. Real truth is mentioned nothing else.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Interesting but does this really show a true representation of how muslims view the teachings of the koran. Wilders should have been allowed to make his case in the UK though
February 12th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
well done to the government of the UK. By banning this man entry into the UK you have given him more publicity than radio 1 when they banned “Relax” by Frankie goes to hollywood!
February 12th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I had never even heard of Fitna till today, I have just watched the film and don’t see what the problem is, it’s factual and shows where the real threat comes from, only the British government is too afraid of offending those out to destroy us
February 12th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
A very thought provoking film which is probly the reason why so many are objecting to it.
Britains unelected prime minister, his cronies and their bankrupt political party are sat so far in the pockets of wealthy oil rich doners that they will do anything to keep them happy even if it means commiting treason against there own kin and county.
“As long as there is food in the trough the pigs wont look up to see the butchers massing around them” I think is the Ideology behind it
February 12th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
good call steve
February 12th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
The point of this film is questionable. It was not an attempt to engage in any sort of dialogue, but showed the most extreme actions and activities that have been associated (rightly or wrongly) with Islam.
Adam is right to point out that the Muslim population of Europe, in fact of the whole world, are peaceful, hard working and honest people who “are normal people just getting on with their lives”.
But it is naive to believe that the bombings and hatred is simply the work of a few extremists. There are core opinions expressed by Muslims such as the detah penalty for being gay, or for adultary which are hateful in the extreme, and which will never be accepted in the west.
And Adam spoiled his point by his claim that the twin towers were brought down by controlled explosions. The evidence that the towers were destroyed by aircraft seems to be incontrovertiable.
Whether the cause was religeous or political is a different question.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
UK Government must stop to give legal status to these Muslim asylum seekers otherwise these aliens demand a new nation or mess this country in a very terrible way.God save our Queen.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
thank you mr wilders for,haveing the guts to step forward put your head on the block, and tell the world exactly whats going on. your a very brave man .good luck
February 12th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Well that movie certainly made a point. Its very subjective but i guess it cannot be otherwise. Its another case of fundamentalism i guess, christians do not approve of homosexuals or adultary. Its not fair of me to draw comparissons between the two.Fundamentalists always draw exteremes to suit thier stance on issues. I, like others, believe that not all muslims want to destroy the west, but i guess the question is, where will thier loyalties be when terrorists surge into power. I do feel muslims are quick to condone the terror acts but i often wonder just how exactly they feel about us infadels?
where has all the love gone?
I do so hope this film does not encourage any people in the UK to side with the BNP!
February 12th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
he has got his politics all wrong How many Christians in Europe today have stole, raped, killed or harmed another Christian? Far more than any Muslim has harmed another Muslim. they might have some crack pot ideas, but so do Westerners. peace is not brought about by expressing power of authority but by working outside of it.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
question? why as a christian nation do we have to tolerate this politicaly correct nonsense. Freedom of speech is our right, or is it? it’s ok as long as Your not from an ethnic minotity. By the way white people in Leicester are now an ethnic minority!
February 12th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
It’s about time governments of all nations stopped pussyfooting around offending Islam. There is hard evidence in this video that the religion itself is bent on world domination, so why aren’t any governments taking this seriously? Because it might offend them? It’s almost laughable how stupid political correctness is nowadays.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Islam will ruin us all one way or another, its like a virus to western society, the middle east is a place of evil and hate while my brother fights out in Iraq, Muslims eat the food and drink the water that my brother is fighting so hard to make sure that hes son and daughter get there share, it sickens me
very insightful film.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
they can’t take it serious coz it’s about money if they take it serious all the corner packi shops will close and they will lose shit loads of revenue!!
February 12th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
an i wunt wont that ever coz a get my easy rider )cider(for 2 pound 59.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Of course Christianity and the bible have just as much a history of violence, it would be easy to make exactly the same type of movie based on the bible, category by category. A good question would be to ask, ” which religion, over history, has killed more people, conquered more ‘unbelievers,’ destroyed more civilizations…I am sure the answer would be very debateable.
Passages can be found in the bible inciting ‘believers’ to kill nonbelievers, inciting christians to kill converts from christianity to other religions, passages indicating why women are inferior and why its ok to rape and stone them, passages describing how jews in particular should either be converted or killed…it all depends on what your bias is and who you are trying to vilify…the point is that God/Allah, Jesus/Mohammed DID NOT WRITE THESE BOOKS - People wrote these books, often times power hungry zealots….
What it seems like nowadays is that there are more fanatical extremists in Islam who hold literally to the passages versus their counterparts in Christianity….if there were the equivalent amount of biblical extremists then I am positive they would be off killing as many non-Christians as they could, just like the radical Islamists…
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/bible_quran.html
http://www.evilbible.com/
http://skepticreview.blogspot.com/2008/03/awkward-bible-passages-part-vi.html
February 12th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
No one who has the courage to thrown a stone to any woman has the right to live freely in any society. No one for any circumstances has got the right to kill. No one can reject another human beign for their sexual preferences.No one can breach our freedom as a human beigns. Freedom is all we have.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
We would be better off with someone like this in Britian. We did nothing from 1933 until 1939 when we had to act. If things carry on the way they are we will have to act or be destroyed. We are being conquered passively (for the most part) and are openly helping those who would conquer us. Something is wrong somewhere.
Not all muslims are terrorists but most terrorists do seem to be muslim.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
SALAMO ALAIKUM this video is halarious .. you disbelivers of ALLAH go out of your way to make islam look like the worst religon ..when it is the most peacful religon that was reveald.. wildar took the surah out of context and used it to his advantage to manipulate and poision the minds of non muslims..you disbelivers know that islam is the right religon but you just dont want to admit it.. from when islam is the fastest growing religon with people reverting from other religons to become muslims.. FUTHER MORE some of the most famous lecturous and prechers..are ENGLISH BLACK AMERICANS and others all reverts..jihad is taken out of its meaning and twisted this ALLAH which is our GOD and also you disbelivers GOD..i dont have anything else to say but you will realise this on judgment day when you will come face to face with ALLAH and be questiond on the matter of this subject.. DONT STEREO-TYPE those terrorist bombers so called muslims that say there killing innocent people for the sake of ALLAH are not muslims as it states in the quran ..SUICIDE is haram.. WA ALAIKUM SALAM
February 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Taking verses out of context of any religious text & selective translations fromm biased orgainsations likes MEMRI make this film a joke.
If Wilders is really a “champion of free speech” - lets see him support those (scientists, historians and even preists) that for simply questioning a single aspect of the “offical Holocaust narrative” and have been thrown into jail for simply expressing an opinion!
I wonder if Wilders would have the guts to publish verses from the Jewish Talmut and intersperse video clips from U Tube of Jewish massacres against the Brits (King David Hotel) and the Palestinians in Deir Yassin, Sabra & Chatilla, Lebanon, Jennin, Lebanon (again) & Gaza and add the hate speeches of numerous Jewish “leaders” for good measure.
He is a hate filled bigot and hypocrite! LOL
February 12th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
At last someone who is prepared to say the truth,why do we bend over backwards to accomadate these people in our contries?Why do we change our laws to make “them” fit in.Why can we not any longer have pride in our own religion ,culture and history without “offending” someone. How can they stand on our streets spreading their vile brand of Islam,yet when an opposing demacratic party trys to rally or march against these radicals they are banned by our goverment.I hope our goverment has the guts to allow you back into our country and please ,please do not give.Our freedom depends on people like you.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
ur right.i hope he keeps fighting to the end.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I don’t understand why the free world by free will puts itself into trouble by allowing immigration of massive numbers of poeple with completely foreign ideas that run contrary to everything the western world today stands for - free speech, freedom to choose and leave a religion, equal rights for women and men, freedom to choose sexual preference. This isn’t about being “racist”. This is about common sense. Conflict arises out of conflicting ideas. Fruitful and rejuvenating things come out of cultural exchanges and limited immigration, but this massive immigration of people cannot possibly be anything else than harmful to peaceful societies. The problem isn’t necessarily about one group being more right or peaceful than another group; it is the very fact that fundamental values differ so much, which sets the stage for conflict. Massive number of people with different values will naturally gain political power, and slowly western freedoms will be increasingly restricted and outlawed. Why are people so blind and naive? This will happen. It is simple mathematics.
I know for a fact from own personal experience that even the nicest Muslim men often harbor values that says that they wouldn’t hesitate to kill their own daughters if the daughter has sex before marriage. Westerners find such ideas so absurd that instead of accepting that these ideas are real and common, they often refuse to believe it to be true, and dismiss it as “racism”.
Where are the sensibilities in all this? When normal political parties refuse to take responsibility for their own countries’ future, they implicitly cause racist parties to rise to power because eventually, many people see no other alternative to vote for. If established political parties would cut through all the political correctness bullshit, and act responsibly, while at the same time harshly punish those who physically attack individuals of the immigrated groups, then that would be the best way to protect all individuals, while at the same time act in the best long-term interests of their countries. There is no point in mass-migrating people from one culture to another. All continents are well-populated.
Immigration is good and enhances the freedom for everyone since it allows for people from various cultures to fall in love and build a family together. It also allows for transfer of skills, perspectives, and work-forces across the globe. It is the massive immigration of people with fundamentally different value-systems that spells trouble.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
WHY DO WE HAVE TO RESPECT THIS PRIMITIVE RELIGION THAT HATES THE REST OF US
February 12th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
This film is nothing short of the truth how much more are we supposed to let happen before we wake up to the real threat of the muslim faith.People who have veiwed this film cannot denie what is said in black and white the muslim faith is becoming a global threat.This is not suspicion the facts are stairing us as a nation in the face is the goverment so stupid that it cannot see what is going to happen if i can see it then so can they.
vote bnp keep our country christian.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
if any of you even bothered to research into islam , rather than just make up yyour minds after watching a 16 minute clip, then you would find that the word ISLAM MEANS PEACE
thats all i need to say to all the immature , ignorant , narrow minded and racist people who have commented ….
make up your own minds ! instead of listening to a one sided story ….
its soo dissapointing readoing these comments
you should be ashamed …
February 13th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Its not about people - rather its about the Koran - god knows how you spell that…
Well it does seem to preach some rather anti social stuff and probably reflects the inner fears of weekness we all have - but diverts responsibility from the indervidual.
Yes christianitly has blood on its hands too… so do most religions.
My point is :
GOD (any) does not exist, religion is just the emprours new clothes - come on people ALL religion is for the blind!
God can suck my ….
February 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Very good movie. That is exactly what muslims are - TERRORISTS.
I hate terror and I hate muslims. Fuck them all.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
PEACE my arse !!! did someone fall asleep altru this vid ? Talk about 5th columnists !! when will Britain/Europe awake ..?
Gadaffi himself said Europe will be an islamic state within a few decades without the use of bombs or bullets !! .. well if they are using `em now looks like THEY will be in power a damn sight quicker !
the video should be shown on national TV
nuff said.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
This film in my honest opinion is not a hate film and I do not for the life of me understand all of the stir that it has caused. The outrage is over the top to say the least. I was more open about Muslims in the past but now I find myself growing tired of these extremest threats that are childish tantrums. They are not concerned about offending others but if anyone says anything about their religion that they do not like then they murder them and seem to condone it. It is this attitude that encurages me to support banning ANY muslims from immigrating to any countries outside their own. The ones that are in other places need to be rounded up and sent back to where the hell they came from. They are a threat and a danger to all that know them.
February 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I think we ought to be seeing this film as a description not so much of Muslims as Imams. After all, it is the ’scholars’ and Imams who are telling this to the people - telling them to hate to kill, even those who leave Islam.
The Bible has so pretty bad instructions in it but Christian clergy so not advocate violence nor try to take over the government of countries. perhaps this is the difference.
Religion in the West has to live in a secular state and accept that is is a private matter with no power outside its own buildings and needs to show respect for those who do not hold its beliefs. Islam in the West owes its existence to the tolerance and acceptance that other religions and atheists show it and it needs to offer the the same respect.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
i dont think all muslims are agaist the west and most dont believe in jihad but the ones who do need to be killed, quickly and painlessly as not to go to thier level so they can take their punishment in hell, no god would want this.
February 13th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
For all those who have spoken out in favour of banning this films creator from coming to the UK I have a thought.
I am a conservative (with a small c) person who finds programs like ‘Skins’ (channel 4) to be objectionable on the grounds that they promote promiscuity and underage sex, drinking, illegal drug abuse and various other forms of behaviour that could lead to, if watched by impressionable young minds, a denegration of our society.
Should I therefore not only call for censorship of such programs but also the removal from my country of their writers and producers?
Nobody is ‘above’ freedom of speech. The decision not to allow this man entry to the UK should be derided by people of ALL political hues.
Dn’t forget the ruling establishment will not always be a left-leaning/liberal one. Best to defend freedom, even if it is your enemy’s freedom, in order to defend your own.
February 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
I could see little to argue with in the film. It stated facts. They may not be facts that suit those Muslims who would rather gain dominance by stealth but they are facts nonetheless.
It has been interesting to hear politicians (e.g. Keith Vaz on Newsnight, BBC2 12th Feb.) condemn the film (and Geert Wilders right to enter the UK) whilst admitting that they had not seen it. How can they defend that position. They are making important decisions based solely on hearsay. As it happens, they have inadvertently given the film the best advertising possible. Of course, a cynic might say that that was the intention; indirectly promote the film whilst appearing to appease the very vocal Muslim minority.
February 13th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
In Quran I have said manything for the time and location and certain people and does not apply today. God has not left you be kind to your kind
February 13th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
All that has been showen are actual facts (not made up)
Its so obvious what is going to happen by letting all the muslims in our countrys. They will one day declare war on the world and we wont be able to do anything about it cos they will already be in our countrys! We legally cant even put a mangar up in a shop window at christmass because it ‘Offends the muslims’ Im fed up with them covering them selfs up in our streets and hiding behind their beards! They bad mouth our countrys and our monarchy. Im a student in London and London is not what it used to. You cant say anything with out offending somone! its a joke. The muslims say extreame stuff at our unis and enough is enough!
Imagration is somtimes a good thing e.g Your counrty dosnt have enough pharamasists so you ‘Invite’ them in.
NOT open the gates to everyone!
And what people say about ‘Not all muslims are bad’ is bull shit cos deep down they are. Just wait untill its time and they will fuck us all up.
Were to easy on people!
BNP is not the way but some serious action needs to happen!
February 13th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Some people hide behind Islam, som behidn Democracy. Be wise! There are good and bad in everything.
February 13th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
SALAMO ALAIKUM….YOU PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT, NARROW MINDED ..PLEASE GO AND RESEARCH ON ISLAM AS IT ONLY SPREADS PEACE THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (SAWS) WAS CHOSEN TO UNITE EVERYONE AS HE ONLY LIVED A LIFE OF LOVE KINDNESS PEACE FAITH .. I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AND READ THE BOOK ( THE LIFE OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMED (SAWS) AND YOU WILL SEE .. AND READ (WHAT IS ISLAM) YOU WILL SEE THAT ISLAM MEANS PEACE .. AT THE END OF THE DAY US MUSLIMS DONT NEED TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU DISBELIVERS.. WE KNOW THERE IS A GOD.. AND BY THE WAY THIS MOVIE THAT HAS BEEN MADE IS NOT A FREEDOM OF SPEECH .. ITS AN ACT OF DISCRIMINATION..THIS SHOULDNT BE ALOUD BUT ITS OK BECUASE THIS ONLY MAKES US STRONGER. WA ALAIKUM SALAM ..
February 13th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Why type in block capitals? More aggression perhaps?
February 13th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
This movie is indeed a very scary one and yes, something should be done about the violence, but sadly there is nothing that can be done. People like VALINA & SIRKINA are at the point where logic or morality is lost forever. The religion in itself is not the problem, the problem are the uneducated people that decide to blindly believe in something instead of thinking for themselves. IMO if you kill someone for your belief, it only proves that it is worthless. True religion should be such that does not need to force itself upon people, but rather it makes them want to believe in it willingly.
As DAV said, I also don’t understand what does this film wants from people. As for the person who made it, all I can say that he was looking for good selling material or he is a real Islamic hater.
The point is: Think for yourself and do what you think is best without sucking up to someone else . . . well that applies only to people with normal logic and those who are not mindless fanatics.
Religion is something one(if not smart at least, a person with a bit of brains) should truly believe in and not be forced to follow by.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
This is the result of what a belief in an imaginary god creates. People killing them-selves, and other [real] people for a fictional god character that is no different from Santa Claus. Sad.
Peter Rasputin
February 13th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
First of all, I’m an atheist, so it’s not just islam I have a problem with. The major problem here is that religious people think they don’t have to prove that what they believe is real or the truth. But why shouldn’t they? Everyone else has to. You have a right to believe whatever you want, but what you don’t have is a right to have those beliefs taken seriously IF YOU DON’T FURNISH EVIDENCE. If you claim bigfoot is real and king of the forest, I have every right to laugh my ass off at you if you say “well, at the end of the day, we bigfootists don’t have to prove anything to you non-believers.”
That being said, I agree. This movie is too selective. It singles out islam. Which is why there should be a movie like this for EVERY religion.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
u all have no idea whatsoever’ how about studying the quran for the real truth, instead of a 16min clip.
have u forgotten the crusaders? enough sed!!!”’
February 13th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
u all have no idea whatsoever’ ( ignorant, selfish, racist society) neva judge a book by its cover” how about studying the quran for the real truth, instead of summing up a 16min clip.
have u forgotten the crusaders? u should be ashamed of approving such rubbish’ would u like it if we denied the holocaust? read the quran for a peace of mind”
February 13th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Well, the film does a good job to appeal to emotion by showing the most atrocious acts and words of the religion that supposedly only teaches peace. It could just as easily do the same thing to Christianity if the clock were to rewind a few centuries.
I don’t understand how Muslims can cry “out of context” when referring to what has been shown here. They were direct verses. The accompanying scenes were not from movies, or rehearsed, but from live accounts and news reports. The statistics were not made up. It was a very simple process of showing a verse and then showing how some more fundamental Muslims apply their teachings to the world. The best they could do is cry “mistranslation.” Speaking of mistranslation, did you know that “72 Virgins” is thought to be a mistranslation and is thought, more accurately, to mean “72 Pearls of Wisdom”. And, to include Christians, the word “virgin” was probably a mistranslation of the word for “young woman”. Think about that. I digress.
For any Christian out there that is feeling superior, remember that your own faith is just a ridiculous and dangerous when put under a scrutinizing eye.
For any Muslim out there that is outraged, ask yourself why. Most people offended by something are typically only offended because they’re afraid it may be true.
Freedom of Speech is not in place to defend the speech you agree with. It’s put in place to defend the speech you don’t agree with.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Geerth Wilders, You are my man! The movie is fabulous, You have spoken my mind. Islam is peacefull!! Bulshit!! My foot.
The World is in recession because of islam,The world is in anarchy because of Islam, Muslims are brainless.
God has given each and every one the freedom of choice and consequences of choosing what we have choosen , each one is responsible for their acts.
Hey to all muslims all over the world :
TEACH EVERYONE THE CORRECT PRINCIPLES AND LET THEM GOVERN THEMSELVES. each one will be judged of their choices.
Satan is the one who forces.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
THIS VIDEO JUST SHOWS THE HATE FROM THE DISBELIEVERS .. THE WORD “ISLAM” MEANS TO SUBMIT .. THIS SUBMISSION IS TO ALLAH (SAW)..NAME ONE RELIGION OTHER THAN ISLAM THAT HAS NOT BEEN CORRUPTED?? ITS GONNA B REALLY HARD TO DO SO SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE ISN’T ONE .. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND EXTREMISTS .. MUSLIMS ARE VERY PEACEFUL AND LOVING PEOPLE .. EXTREMISTS MISINTERPRET THE RELIGION .. AND THINK THEY ARE RIGHT WHEN THEY KILL .. ALLAH HAS FORBIDDEN “ANYONE” EXCEPT HE TO REMOVE LIFE FROM ANY HUMAN BEING .. IF YOU NEVER CREATED THE LIFE YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TAKE IT .. EXTREMISTS MAY SAY THEY ARE DOING IT FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH BUT TRUST ME, THESE PEOPLE WILL HAVE THEIR PLACE IN JAHANUM(HELL-FIRE) WAITING FOR THEM .. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION .. BUT BEFORE YOU STATE THIS OPINION MAKE SURE YOU HAVE FACTS BEHIND IT .. OUR PROPHET WAS THE MOST LOVING PERSON YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE OF .. THE STONING OF THE ADUTLERER WAS ONLY PUT INTO ACTION BECAUSE BACK IN THE PROPHETS TIME ONE LADY COMMITED ADULTERY AND ASKED FOR A PUNISHMENT BECAUSE SHE KNEW THE PUNISHMENT ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WOULD BE 100x PAINFUL AND THIS PUNISHMENT WOULD RECUR .. SHE ASKED FOR THE STONING .. I WILL BE BACK TO ADD TO MY COMMENT ABOUT THIS DISGUSTING VIDEO ..
ASALAMU ALAIKUM
February 13th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I think the movie misses a very important point. There are plenty of Christians who have committed murder for their religion - look at various abortion doctor killings for just one example. It is religion in general that is the problem. Moderate religion creates an environment where extremism can exist.
People need to inform themselves properly - I bet most of the ‘Christians’ reading this have never read the old testament completely. Similar to the Koran - you bet!
February 13th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
dis is crap dont you lot ever use your own brain 4 onces just by watch 16min clip dont mean all muslims r terriorst.if for example a whiter person goes and kills someone or rapes them does that make all white people killers and rapist???does it noooooo it dont and that same with muslims yeah i dont agree with what those people on da vid said they chatn it but it dosnt mean all muslims are terrorist.Peace out
February 13th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Good luck to you in getting your film out to as many peaple as possible.
As a British citizen I am disgusted that you were refused entry and I for one will not vote for these cowards any more.
I have read comments that it’s not all muslims just the “radical” ones. But it seems obvious to me that these radical members are simply muslims that actualy believe what they are saying. Almost ALL religions have a violent past that they would like to forget, but Islam is now and always was one of the most violent! I think that in the last few minutes of the film which mentions nazi’s and communists was correct. It seems that unless we draw the line now this to will come to a violent end! All we need now is political leaders that have the guts to draw that line and stand behind it…..
February 13th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
I must add that it is kind of funny to bring in other religions in here. Quran Is relatively young something like 1300 years old. I’m sure that in a few hundred years after their ideals will fail they will be the same as Christians, being very sorry and ashamed of actions of their ancestors. (I hope so)
To Rachid
Could you stop using caps, it’s really annoying. It only shows how week nerved you are not to able to think rationally.
p.s. I really hope that people will take this film only as a film made for those with no personal opinion or slightest shred of self-awareness. There is no point in saying wherever this film is good or bad, it was made purely for moneymaking and brain washing (I think that “probably; I can’t be sure” everything in this film is pure facts, all was taken from the original book and clips where not edited to change the meaning of what those people in the film where trying to say).
February 13th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Is that it? I seriously don’t see what all the fuss is about, I was expecting the refferences to Nazis to be far more direct and upfront (from what I read in the newspapers).
If it were up to me i’d have the film broadcast on national television, if only to get people talking. Muslims say the film skews and misrepresents Islam, maybe so, but so what if it does? All the more reason to start the debates. What this film needs is some open and frank discussion between Muslims and Non-Muslims who CAN and DO find this kind of material rather worrying - after all there is some really scary stuff in that film. Trying to censor Greet Wilders just hurts Islam and religion as a whole IMO.
February 13th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
More proof that religious beliefs are a journey into mental illness … created by small men who need to be powerful and use the uneducated of mind control to place them in power… It’s SO BLOODY transparent … Only a fool believes. As Ayn Rand stated ” it’s hard to formulate your own opinions, when all you do is agree with everyone someone says”
February 13th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Attention muslim apologists, stop typing in caps it only makes your comments more laughable.
Atention to all, Much can be said about all the religions alternatively emphasizing certain parts of their books when it suits them. This is one of the many reasons I see a problem with all religions.
The real problem with this, is that regardless of who is doing it or when, the religious continue to attack science and the secular base that all of the modern democracies have in common. True secular government will not be safe until all religions realize that they are delusions of wishful people and their self-serving leaders.
February 13th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
ALLAH could also mean All. Islam is submission to will of All and Allah or God for purpose of Peace. Be wise and kind.
February 14th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Hey guys, lets be sensible. If you want to believe in your bestest ever imaginary friend (allah, god, whatever) so be it. Don’t expect the rest of us to go along with it. Once you accept that religion is largely man made (look at when the books were written. And by whom.) you will come to realise that no belief is worth any more than, perhaps, a guidance to a moral level which we might follow.
To dictate how we all should live, as so many Muslims try to, is wrong. Even some of the Imams will not agree with that.
There probably is no God.
I say this to Muslims, indeed anyone who does not like the British way of life, clear off! Try living in a Muslim country. Or, if you happen to think Black is Best, try Zimbabwe.
Before the hate mail hits the fan may I explain my position? I am a white, middle aged, great great grandson of Utsekanawa from Onitsha, Slave Coast of Africa. I have travelled the World and always found friends. I was in Fiji when the British and Australian governments threatened to take military action due a coup that they did not support, did not understand, totally misjudged and ,thus, threatened the prosperity and independence of that island race.
Allah was man made, about 600 AD as I recall. Learn to accept that life does and will go on without this devout nonsense.
February 14th, 2009 at 1:09 am
This video was great. Islam extremists should not be allowed to push their beliefs on anyone- the same goes for every other religious group out there. Islam at one time did mean peace, but it has been warped by people who think they are better than everyone else.
Peace be to you all.
February 14th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Steve, I agree!
February 14th, 2009 at 1:13 am
To force in believing or disbelieving me, you will have to answer me in judgment day.
February 14th, 2009 at 1:33 am
Allah, fine. I know there is no god, so have nothing to fear. No worries, mate.
Of course, if you believe in god ( or allah, if you prefer) you presumably believe in hell. Suicide is a sin. is it not? An act against your creator? Just how do you square that with killing people alongside yourselves (e.g. 9/11; 7/7; etc.)?
February 14th, 2009 at 1:47 am
I gave you choice so you could accept responsibility.
February 14th, 2009 at 1:57 am
muslims are not very nice people /
February 14th, 2009 at 2:19 am
The balance of freedom must be restored. All religions and secular ideas must have equal weight. If the balance is upset, then all will be lost in blood.
February 14th, 2009 at 2:29 am
Mr. Wilders,
Truly remarkable film. When Islam takes over Europe, you and your countrymen can immigrate to Texas. We have lots of room and are welcoming people. It is sad to see Holland lost. I visited in my youth and saw the museums in Amsterdam. It is noble what you are trying to do but no one will listen until it’s too late. So I say once again if you need a safe new home you should consider the Panhandle of Texas.
February 14th, 2009 at 2:41 am
These people would be funny if they weren’t so bloodthirsty and mad. Why don’t they grow a sense of humour and see how totally ridicolous they look. They are hundreds of years behind. Eventually they will have to come to reason and see islamism the way westerners look back now at the spanish inquisition and witch burning etc.
I can’t help but be suspicious of Mr Wilders. Is he exploiting the current global recession to spread hate and find scapegoats the way Hitler did in the 1930’s? Is this just a cynical right wing vote grab? Just a thought.
February 14th, 2009 at 2:51 am
I have voted Labour all my life in the UK elections but I am disgusted with this decision. I will now be voting for the coward Prime Minister Brown again.
February 14th, 2009 at 3:36 am
haha how funny is that, someguy is calling and acting like he is Allah, he needs a good kick in the head!!! haha,
what an absolute loser
February 14th, 2009 at 3:51 am
An interesting site worth checking out : http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Games-Muslims-Play.htm#islamnotviolent
February 14th, 2009 at 6:01 am
I agree that a similar film could be made using biblical passages from both the Old and New Testament — and indeed, there are many examples on youtube. But all this absurdity just makes me more glad that I’m a humanistic atheist; even if it saddens me to see so many people react bizarrely and absurdly to whatever religious views they claim to follow. I mean, come on, it’s all ridiculous! I try not to stereotype but I can’t help thinking that religious adults are suffering from one hell of a delusion, as Richard Dawkins would say. We’re told that fairy tales aren’t real once we reach a certain age…
February 14th, 2009 at 6:19 am
I see 9/11, Madrid, London: why does the 2002 Bali bombing never seem to get a mention in these things?
February 14th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Islam is a black cloud hoping to cover the world.
FUCK ISLAM
February 14th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Then again, I think that anyone who judges someone purely based on what religion they claim to follow*, and nothing else, is acting irrationally. This is because there are many kind, decent people who happen to be religious (and the same goes for the non-religious!) — and although they may state that their belief affects “every part of their life”, there does seem to be a sort of compartmentalisation of logic going on inside their heads. For instance, not many adults believe in Father Christmas/Santa Claus/etc***. Or they simply don’t want to give up their notion of faith.
But I do believe strongly in freedom of speech and the freedom to offend! If someone is so offensive to the point where they genuinely “pose a threat to cohesion”**
* And I choose my words wisely, as most followers don’t attempt the reputably impossible task of practising every single rule in their “Holy Rule Book” — at least, I hope most people don’t, because I struggle to comprehend the notion that there are so many “Literalists” who reject independent thought.
** The notion of which I find unlikely, and patronising — after all, who are the judges, ultimately, but the citizens themselves in a truly free society? The late Rumpole of the Bailey author was spot on there, I think.
*** Final footnote, I promise! I would just like to say that, on another tangent, I find myself questioning my participation in religious artefacts like Christmas, like so many other “Scrooges”. I enjoy the atmosphere to a point, and of course the gift receiving (although I admit that I don’t make much of an effort to give presents) — but it makes me laugh to think of all the protests about “PC Gone Mad” when alternative names are considered, and so on. Perhaps the case of the school that postponed its nativity until January was rather ridiculous, I’d agree; but “Winterval” makes more sense to me as an atheist than the celebration of a certain supernaturally-inseminated “Son of God” who was supposedly born “about 2009 years ago”, moved to a particular date in December that coincides with an ancient so-called “Pagan” mid-winter festival involving poisonous mistletoe at a start… Having rambled on yet again, I don’t mind people celebrating whatever events they like, religious or not, as long as they equally respect the right of others to do the same! And that seems to be the majority view of the oft-patronised, “defenceless minorities”.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:38 am
If anyone cares, I meant to finish the final paragraph (before the footnotes) like so:
If someone is so offensive to the point where they genuinely “pose a threat to cohesion”**, then usually (hopefully) a consensus will form that resemblance some sense of Rational Thinking. Unless there really is an absolute “tyranny of the majority”, which I doubt applies at all times. It seems that there is some credence to the argument that over-zealous Political Correctness may actually be steering some people towards further disillusionment and prejudice, which gets in the way of a level of basic human (and dare I say it, British?) tolerance.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Bravo, Islam, and bravo all religions for making faith the biggest cause of death in the world, in front of HIV, cancer, plague and war. Thank god.
February 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
I’m not sure what pisses me off more. The people in this video, or the people in the comments here saying “VOTE CHRISTIAN!” you’re just as fucking bad as the people in the video.
Fuck Religion.
February 14th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Religion = Truth
for the limited mind
February 14th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Google: Mohammeds Camel
February 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I wish you all the best from removing this vile ideology from our wonderful nations, I’d rather be a communist, and I hate the communists.
February 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
When people claim to have the perfect infallible truth they will have to decide between metaphorical interpretation or insisting that everyone who disagrees is evil or foolish. Mohammed composed his verses (or they were devised by his successors) in a barbaric and brutal time and place. We don’t know how many of them came from him and whether any were lost (it seems probable). All of the monotheist religions claim unique perfection so they can’t all be true, how much more likely that none of them is! If we consider the mass of other religions as well, then the demand by some followers of one particular religion to be granted exemption from all laws that limit their following the most extreme and intolerant precepts of their faith is unacceptable. As an atheist I’m friends with members of many belief systems including Muslims and they know of my position. The mutilation of children and the demands for the suppressing of homosexuals (I’m heterosexual myself), together with other barbarisms, must be openly condemned by Muslims if anti-islamic feelings are to die down. Saudi Arabia and other islamic countries must give equal freedoms and rights to those of all faiths and those of none before they can be regarded as fully civilised. Meanwhile, the rest of the world should make it plain: People deserve equal treatment when they give it to others regardless of creed, colour, sex or sexual orientation.
“Peace” as Pat Condell says. “But not at any price”.
February 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
When will our government realise that these fuckers are only here to kill us all?/ Vote BNP!
February 14th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Thank you Gordon Brown for highlighting this mans cause as I hadn’t heard about it untill you banned him. Now I have seen the film it does make you realise how much hate, intollerence and violence these people spread in the name of religion. A decent educational system in these third world states would go a long way to easeing their general ignorance instead of the brain washing done by their religious leaders. Maybe one day…
February 14th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
take over your europe you couldn’t even defend you land in the crusades and yes the real holocaust is coming and it will be against are so called leaders and the menace and scum known as muslims
February 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
nazism was defeated but did we really win
“war does not determine who is right only who is left” look at nazi germany no crime safe to work down the streets the world would be a better place than now and no we wouldnt be free but we would all be born after the won the war and would not know or care about freedom
February 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
If the UK wouldn’t have banned him I’d never seen this so thank you Gordon Brown you fucking prick. I’m glad this will backfire.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer
February 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Islam is disgusting. But just as disgusting are those posting “vote BNP” as responses. Both are anti-democratic and anti-freedom. It can be argued both are cut from the same cloth. Shame on you.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I am in everyone, nothing can be hidden from me. Be wise and kind and you will be closer to me.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
What is this religion thing all about anyway? We evolved we live and we die. There is no heaven no God no Allah. Yet more wars have been fought on the back of religion than anything else. When will this world wake up to the fact that we are on this earth for a short time geologically speaking and when we are gone we are gone. We have arrived where we are today through chance. Science today provides more than enough evidence to explain where we come from and science also puts our life on earth into perspective. So let us not corrupt this time with pointless religious fervour and positioning.
February 14th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
How can anyone defend these insane ideologies? Stop this Predator! (Period)!
Yes, defending ones freedoms is opposite from the very freedoms we cherish. But, if we do absolutely nothing, what freedoms will we enjoy?
February 14th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
1945 Nazism was defeated
1989 Commuism was defeated
2009 Islamisation is 22 times worse than Nazism and is fully supported by the UK government.
Our ancestors lost their lives in both world wars for nothing. RIP
February 14th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Fuck Islam
Fuck the BNP
VOTE THE MONSTER RAVING LOONY PARTY!
February 14th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Islam is against freedom of speech and we will conquer
February 14th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Whilst this film does emphasise the the most extreme and terrifying aspects of Islam (and I fully acknowledge that most muslims are peacefull), it does point out that even one person thinking like this one too many (Earth, Hitler, 1938). ANY religion or organisation teaching violence and murder because people do not think and believe as they do is evil. Evil must be opposed. ANY religion or organisation that encroaches on freedom must be stopped. Freedom isn’t free. It costs folks like you and me. We must cherish it, and we must defend it.
February 14th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Interesting film, though it’s style reminds me a tad of the anti-semitic propoganda in pre-war Germany. It also focuses on the radical side of Islam. Nevertheless, some valid points are made. I have muslim friends who agree that radicals are a threat to the UK and muslims who come to the UK should integrate into our culture. Those who show a lack of tolerance towards integral parts of our culture e.g. homosexuality, the role of women etc must be dealt with in the strongest possible manner. Our government should not shy away from this and should have let this chap in to make his point and let US decide.
February 14th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I think everyone realizes that not every muslim is radical .. it is redundant to keep making that point. The problem is that the moderates and the koran supply a breeding ground for radical nonsense. Moderate muslims need to stop being offended by everything and realize that the only way to stop these radicals is to raise awareness (through films like this) and take action against them. The safety of innocent people is MUCH more important than anyone’s beliefs.
also, if there are much more moderate muslims than radicals .. why is it that there never seems to be protests by the moderate muslims against the radicals who insult islam, through the actions they carry out in the name of allah, much worse than any film, teddy bear, or infidel ever could?
it seems to me that the moderates who don’t speak out against radicalism in their own islamic communities are just as much a part of the problem.
February 14th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
None of the scripture in this film is wrong. Is the truth so offending, why would you need a film to realize that the holybook is offensive.
I assume that Muslims have read the Koran.
Look at the main spokes people for the middle east (the one’s getting onto British TV for the right reasons) the are increasingly racist.
Accept this like Christians accept that Christian faith schools teach Jesus’s coming was good because now we don’t have to be turned to salt (if you haven’t seen that; Google it).
February 14th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Arab oil money and NWO money are paying politicians to favor the islam movement.
The inevitable clashes and the chaos will call for martial law (with little opposition from the public).
The violent clerics will be removed(the backbone of violent islam) and the ultimate prize for the NWO “freedom” will be removed giving way to large scale human control testing with implants forced on all. These implants will control all of human emotions, to the point where if you are of no use you will walk to an appropriate location and take your own life out of view of everyone else
etc,etc
Do some research on the incredible progress of implants!!. And make friends with islam people who want to live and let live.
February 14th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Well done wilders! There should be more people like you who see the truth and act upon it. Something has to be done! Why should we all live in fear. I see people have written that not all muslims are like this, which is true. BUT, the leaders are encouraging and demanding it so the religion is a problem and should be destroyed and those muslims who are not radical should convert because they are not true muslims as they dont follow their leaders.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Hello! I am mohammed! I want to tell all muslims that when i said i had a dream and delivered the koran, it was not a dream but a nightmare! How can you possibly believe someone and base a religion on someone who has a dream! Wake up, stop dreaming and think, you’ll have a better life!
February 15th, 2009 at 12:32 am
British Terrorist Threat.
Wake up every one. This incident has exposed the British and their double standards - not because they are afraid of being called racists as someone wrote but because it is a deliberate well oil machinery for world dominance. Think deeper and look under the surface.
A February 9th article in the Daily Telegraph of London, exposed what many in the intelligence community have known, but are now looking at with deadly seriousness. As the article elaborates, the greatest threat of a 9/11 type attack is from networks in England. This also parallels a recent dossier released by Jeff Steinberg of the Executive Intelligence Review, after the recent Mumbai, India bombing. In that article the evidence points back to Saudi royal family funding of British intelligence controlled assets. Throughout the Mideast, Asia, Britain, and elsewhere, it is the funding of radical Wahabi educational institutions and mosques that have created a pipeline for extremists. The leads from the Mumbai attack can be followed back through the British intelligence tainted sections of the Pakistani military that have protected those assets to a control structure in England. The key link is the unfettered travel given to those most radical elements through the use of protected “religious” passports supplied with the help of the Church of England.
Get more details in the following links.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4550144/CIA-warns-Barack-Obama-that-British-terrorists-are-the-biggest-threat-to-the-US.html
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2008/3549stop_anglo-saudi_terror.html
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2008/3548letter_albright.html
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2846b_lewis_profile.html
February 15th, 2009 at 12:37 am
Oh my God…the things that these people believe in…
It is my belief that there is only one true God, and that it is the same God worshipped by all major religions, the different religions just call him by a different name…
Yes, even multi deity religions, such as Hindu. In multi-deity religions there is always one God who is above all the others, the “father God” if you will. And it is my belief that this “father God” is their equivalent of many other religions one God.
I was raised with the belief that God is loving, forgiving and does not want war, hatred, bigotry, racism and their ilk in the world…
It’s heartbreaking to see how they program their children early on to follow in their footsteps and be violent bigotrists.
My heart goes out to everyone trapped by this religion, by these ideals.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:25 am
I re-read these posts with the following thought in mind - as an alien, I have just arrived on planet earth, exhausted after a 16 light year trip and am looking for a friendly face and hospitable place to stay before my return flight. Where would I most likely to be greeted warmly and neither judged as a threat nor dismissed as inferior? It would not take long to realise I would find lasting succor only within the atheist camp.
Some how there has to be a way of giving all people the right to self-determination without exposure or recourse to actions that impinge on the freedoms and security of other human beings. Very idealistic, but is that truly not what we all fundamentally believe in?
February 15th, 2009 at 2:24 am
It’s no different than the propoganda movies put out by fundamentalist Christians that try to tie Darwinism into the holocaust or atheism into every single problem of the modern age.
The exact same tactics, exact same method, exact same bias.
It’s more complex than it looks. Yes, there’s some scary, crazy Muslims out there. They’re far from the majority.
If this movie actually focused properly on the social activities of Muslims, the ones who are causing the real damage in Europe these days, it might have had a worthwhile point to make. This is little better than a tabloid article.
February 15th, 2009 at 2:32 am
I am grateful for the stupidity of the British Government in banning the visit of Geert Wilders because I have now heard about Fitna and seen the film on the internet.
It does not incite violence and does not break any UK laws. All of the texts, pictures and comments are accurate, truthful and require serious debate.
Why is the UK Government so timid in standing up to the Muslim threat? Is it because they are afraid of the reaction of the Muslim voters in a few key marginal constituencies?
Freedom of speak and standing up for human rights is far more important than upsetting the Muslim minorities. If Muslims cannot tolerate freedom of speak then let them live in a country like Saudi where they can live out their medieval beliefs.
February 15th, 2009 at 2:47 am
This is the BAD side of Islam i’m sure there is a good side aswell, there’s a bad side of all religions.
But there should be no law against films like these no matter what the subject is about, Freedom of Speech is a hell of alot more important than any religion. If you don’t like what this video has to say, simply don’t watch it.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:02 am
Religion is the root of all evil. Get rid of it all.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:33 am
@89
I don’t know about you but if the Nazis had taken over the world I probably wouldn’t have been born. And if they had for some reason allowed race mixing I probably would have gotten shot in the head for my sexual orientation. I’m quite happy their version of a perfect world was never realized.
It’s a shame when any group of people are tainted by the actions of a small portion of their population. The problem is not Islam, it is Islamitization and those who refused to accept both their religion and the secular mores of the West. We should give no quarter to people like that, and yet somehow protect those Muslims who are secular and willing to accept a diversity of opinion and faith. If that turns out to be impossible? To what must we resort? That sort of horrible question keeps me up at night.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:57 am
This movie speaks the truth. Moderate Muslims are not as moderate as they pretend to be. Look what happened due to the Danish cartoons. Suddenly, ‘moderate Muslims’ turn into radicals rioting on the streets and burning flags. When the planes crashed into the WTC towers, in many Muslim cities people celebrated on the streets. But when you ask them, they all hypocritical say: ‘Islam is a religion of peace’. This is all just a big bubble with no substance. It’s just talking in order to hide what they’re really thinking. If someone critizes Islam, they all show up being totally upset and outraged. But if some of them go and blow up themselves, they all stay quiet (or celebrate even, as already said). Too few of them stand up against the radicals among them. Because the truth is: They are all radical inside - some of them just turning it into reality a bit more.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:48 am
we are all doomed if the threat of what is said is carried out. Fact: Muslims as a whole hate Jews and Christians. They would not teach the children this if it wasn’t true. Israel could pack up and move away tomorrow and there still would not be peace with the Muslims. All are in danger. Muslims hate India..rember Mumbai terrorists. that wasn’t just about a big moutain between the 2 countries. bombings left and right … they hate Russians..rember Chechen militants. They took over a theater during Russian play..oh and let us not forget the school that they took over in Beslan.. Think it couldn’t happen in the States?….Muslims hate the Chinese.. rember the threats during the olympics. Madrid Spain train bombings. Subways in the UK.. Trade Center twice.. the first time they tried to blow it up with a van full of explosives. the second time the 2 planes. The Indonesian island of Bali. Abu Sayyaf of the Philippines…. Most of the worlds conflics are with the Muslims… It is kill or be killed… If Iran gets there way… they will start what is in there eyes the end of times… The Mahdi will reappear and will re-establish the true Islam and the world will find peace and tranquility… not before the mass killings on a scale the world has never seen before. Crazy?? Stupid if you do not listen to the words of the Muslims. They want the world, and will kill for it. Islam the religon of peace?? Peace is not having an Opposition.
February 15th, 2009 at 8:42 am
When will people learn religion has very very little to do with destiny and or divine intervention and alot to do with geography and upbringing. If they were born in Ireland they’d be either catholic or church of england {depending on which side of the border they were} if they were born in the american bible belt they’d be creationists, etc, etc, etc. The parents who bring their children up to be fanatical {x insert religion of choice here x}ists are just as much to blame for any acts their offspring carry out in the name of {x insert deity of choice here x} and it does raise an intresting point, would Islamic parents be as eager to have their 13yr old boy bomb someone if they knew they would face the consequences? Also ANYONE recorded or caught preaching the hate that Islam spreads should be put to death by stoning {because hey, they’re so keen on Sharia {sp?} law being implimented anyway, why not make it’s ugliness useful, for a change?}
February 15th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
A lot of the comments here are right, of course. I want to emphasise that this issue (the banning of Wilders from Britain) is an unprecendented disgrace which represents the official capitulation of Britain to threats of violence from Muslims. This is extremely dangerous for our freedom and indeed (with the rise of Islam) for civilisation itself.
Writing about it here is not enough. If you care, write to your MP now about this disgrace. Make a fuss. And be sure to remember this cowardly appeasement when election time comes around and vote accordingly.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
This film should be essential viewing for all politicians.
February 15th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
why ban the movie i have listened and seen first hand some non christians preachig hatred after the danish cartoons they took to the streets screaming like complete maniacs holding slogans up outside churches on a sunday yet we as a whole sit back and let them do this send them home they do not belong here they dont even speak english for gods sake if they hate our country so much fuck off back were they came from and bum each other to there heart content.
February 15th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Get this video onto national televisions, and get a frank debate started between all rational human beings. Maybe even save a few kids from being brain washed at the same time if they saw “the facts of the most peaceful religion in the world”. The only people that have anything to fear from that scenario would be the fanatics. come on tv producers - lets see if someone in this “terrified of pc and muslims hatred” country has the guts to stand up and be counted!!! - and just one more thing - any chance you muslims could learn to spell properly - perhaps if you spent less time reading fantatical works and plotting jihad and more time on education, would you and the rest of the world not be in a better place today!!
February 15th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
The islam religion is the fascist religion of the religious world, if people want to be muslim, fine! But stay in your muslimlands and do not come here!
I vote B.N.P as I want the Muslims to be kicked back to their OWN country, We as White Christians do not have any thing in common with Islam and have forced multicultural rubbish thrown at us to live with the Muslims by our government or face our courts.But at this present moment one Party can help,the B.N.P., Their movement is getting bigger by the day. They are growing stronger than any of the other parties
February 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Hi all.
I just want to say that people really need to do their research before jumping to conclusions. What Geert Wilders has very cleverly done in this video is manipulated the verse of the Qur’an to support his narrow view against Islam and muslims.
Firstly, I would like to say that before saying that Muslims eat taxpayers money, do your research. If you look into it, more English people are on the dole than Muslims are.
Secondly, I saw in a few of the above comments that Muslims were referred to as “immigrants” and “aliens”, and some people went as far as saying that we should be kicked out of the country. Well if that is the case, then we should leave no short coming. Should all the Muslim states ban entry to those who are not Muslim? Those who are not of the nationality of the country? For example, so many people go to Turkey on holdia. It is a Muslim country. Should we ban all of thw white people from entering? Or how about the daily massacre in Iraq, Afganistan and Palestine?
Lastly, I would like to say that you should really think before coming to a conclusion after watching a short, narrow minded 16 minute clip. It is clearly a biased clip. You should be more mature and reach a conclusion after hearing a balanced arguement. Most Muslims are hard working, caring and their ultimate goal is peace, not just between themselves, but with Christians, Jews, Sikhs etc. As a Muslim, I have friends from many different relgions. They did not shun me away when Muslims were put in a bad light. I have never differentiated between people because of relgion. If you actually looked deeper into Islam and read a few translations of Hadiths (sayings of the Prophet) you would have come acroos this:
“All people are equal…as the teeth of a comb. No Arab can claim merit over a non - Arab, nor a white over a balck person, nor male over female”.
This Hadith outlines two teachings:
1. We are not hell bent over Islamic supremacy in the world
2. Men and women are created as equal to each other. They are not supressed in any way due to their gender (the opposite of which was shown in this video)
All I can say is do your research then come to a conclusion.
P.S - I’m sixteen, and by reading some of the comments that were left, I feel that some people just need to grow up.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
People. Do your research!
Read the Quran.
Allthough I am an atheist I read it and I did not find anything that can be interpreted as aggresion towards others in a non-ambiguous manner what so ever.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
After watching the short movie, and reading a few of the comments I can’t really see why our Government stopped the maker entering the country.
Making a short film which denounces a religion as hate inspiring isn’t a new thing at all. I’ve seen many which talk of Christianity as well as Islam being a hate religion. However there is a vast difference. People who openly criticize the christian faith aren’t banned from entering the country, nor are they denounced as being “racists”. For example, the London busses ran an advertising campaign which said something like “God isn’t real” on the side of a London Bus. I didn’t see what the campaign was for, nor it’s purpose. But I also didn’t see the makers being told to take it down, or being told they are racists. Now, imagine if they ran a similar campaign saying, “Allah doesn’t exsist”. There would be complete chaos. The government would take it down instantly and the creators would be branded racists by top political figures as to not “offend” anyone. Muslims would line the streets of Britain moaning, winging and burning the faces of the creators, or possibly the Union Jack Flag.
I’ve no doubt what-so-ever that this would happen. Remember the fiasco with the anti-Islam cartoons in the newspapers? A similar sort of thing took place. Now, I am not a racist. I’ve no issue with people who are of a diferent ethical backround, race, skin colour etc. To be honest I couldn’t care less. However I’m not keen when religious nut-cases use their beliefs as an excuse to incite hatred towards my fellow country-men/women. I think Britain should find and appropriate way to deal with Islamists. Branding anyone who criticizes them a racist is just lame. The Government are clearly scared to act against them for fear of offending, they tread carefully around the muslims acting all chummy with them, when in reality theyre scared. They need to say enough is enough at some point, I just hope it’s sonner rather than later.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
[...] is in that spirit that I ask you to watch Fitna, if you haven’t [...]
February 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
“Firstly, I would like to say that before saying that Muslims eat taxpayers money, do your research. If you look into it, more English people are on the dole than Muslims are.”
Perhaps British born people are more entitled to the benefits as opposed to immigrants. Why should we pay people to have a better life here. Although i think people should only get a max of 2 months and only if they have contributed unless they really cannot work and that goes for british born and immigrants. Although that a seperate debate.
“For example, so many people go to Turkey on holdia. It is a Muslim country. Should we ban all of thw white people from entering”
You know white people can be muslims as well i hope. You seem to think as well as many other people, non muslims and muslims that Islam is a race not a religion.
I don’t agree with him entirley and certainly not on about the book should be banned, i havn’t read the Qur’an so i’ll take your word for it that he has manipulated the verses, the problem is that islam extremists also do this. The other issue is muslims don’t seem to take criticism well, i’m sure it’s not all muslims but as we’ve seen in a number of protests around the world there is enough to cause trouble. Sadly for muslims who are not like this it causes hatred against the religion since it’s those who shout the loudest get heard the most. But who said democracy was perfect.
“It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.” churchill
February 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Fitna is not the only film out. It is not the first, and will not be the last. ok may be from a Dutch politician, but the clock is ticking on what is what. several atheist above write that religon is the problem. You can like it or not but More people in the world belive in something greater then themselves than not. thats all fine. Belive what you want. peolpe will do things in the name of there religon. Not all will be right, but you have to have some morals. I can only name one that religon so far as to blow themselves up and to cut a persons throat and post it on the net. Islam doesn’t sound like peace, or love to me. They need a better public relations spokesperson if this is the meaning of love and peace.
other movies to check out are
Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against The West
Islam: What The West Needs To Know
Terrorists Among Us: Jihad In America
Farewell Israel: Bush, Iran and The Revotl Of Islam
February 15th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
The British government should blatenly let this be viewed on national tv, Islam has a history of violence like when they killed our guru’s, not all muslims are bad but still if we have to hear there extremisit clerics then they should be able to hear this, they give us hard working asians a bad name cos they think we all the same, Im 4 anyone who is peaceful n looking to intergrate to a specific country’s values not try and take over and create ur own!!
February 15th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
The truth will set us free. This film IS truth and the plan that is the foundation of those who desire to rule the world, again. They will fight to keep the truth from being known and there is absolutely nothing in this film that is false. It is their own words, their own passages from their religious book that damns and exposes them to the world. No wonder they do not want the truth to be knonw. Possibly someone sitting on their sleeping butt in the Western world will take note, rise up and defend what is left freedom. Oh, wasn’t that one of the signs held up? “Freedom, go to hell”. Who is willing to protect freedom? If not the West, who? If you won’t stand up, then fall to your knees and start groveling because that is what is in store for you, your spouse and your children.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Congratulations Mr. Wilders for the excellent film.
You definitely have some huge balls.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
May the Living Triune God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel Bless and keep you and your wife Geert.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
It is an eye opener that my eye opener was deliberately left out. Wonder why..but maybe it is obvious why you don’t want people to read it. You continue manipulating people but sooner than later they will wake up..
February 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
this is defiantly the truth today, there is a few parts that isn’t mentioned like kiddy fiddling/ rape, don’t know why our country puts up with it if they wanna do all that they should do it in there waste land of a country instead of leeching EVERTHING off the british …..
February 15th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
This movie is very scary. I know many Muslim people want peace. This small number of them that believe it is good to murder for their god must be separated from the majority. This is going to be a problem for the modern world. But we must not lose or selves in combating those that wish us harm. We must do so by not alienating those Muslims that mean no one any harm. Difficult…but necessary.
February 16th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Finally someone who is willing to say what must be said! To allow Islam to spread further into your lands, lands which have already been softened up for their attack by Christians themselves demanding special treatment, is to invite destruction. Islam must be fought wherever it shows it’s cowled face, political correctness be damned!
February 16th, 2009 at 1:08 am
This is an interesting thread. Some thoughts to ponder:
A person who TRULY believes in his religion would logically spend all/most of his time trying to convert others because he TRULY fears they will end up in Hell if they die in disbelief.
A Moslem who kills others instead of converting them is not doing his job by rushing others to Hell, is he? So whose job is he doing? The confusion here is between the political Islamist and the purely religious one. Behind every aggressive fanatic movement is generally a political cause.
Political causes are the ones that claim the most lives, not religious ones. The Christians of Germany did not seek out to exterminate the Jews, but the politically motivated Nazis did. The secular, atheistic community of Russia did not massacre their own country-men, but the politically motivated Stallinists did.
The trouble is that political motivators often find a way to use the honest gullability of a deeply religious people to enflame them into a cause that they themselves would never have considered or condoned. It is a simple strategy to hide political aims under the guise of religious ones by cleverly “proving” God’s sanction for the cause.
But removing religion from the equation does nothing to solve the problem (eg. the Russian Revolution became a very anti-religious excercise before long). Indeed, where religion is completely lacking, so too is any popular motivation towards a higher spiritual plane in which the needs of others are considered above one’s own–a definition of Heaven if actually carried out by everyone.
The very scientific diciplines that we appeal to to save us from religious beliefs, were in fact founded by religious communities–Christian, Moslem, and others. Many of our peaceful selfless views are reflections of these peace-aspiring religious roots.
A[n honestly] religious person’s view of Heaven on Earth would probably see everyone converted to the same faith and level of belief. A secular person might see it as live and let live. Neither of these would likely wish to see their aim accomplished by oppressive means because it would work contrary to the very beliefs they espouse (we are assuming no hypocrates here). Only if the goal becomes politically motivated can one understand how propaganda and confusion can muddy the waters through making one group “fear” the other enough to “temporarly” abandon/subjugate their true beliefs in order to remove the current threat. If you see masses of normally peace-loving people motivated to acts of violence, look behind the labels and see that what is really going on is a power play with pawns who would probably never have imagined descending to such a state only a few years before.
Add cultural differences to the mix and the misunderstandings mount. Before anyone gets emotionally enflamed by this or any other issue, always ask who benefits most.
To the religious zealot I ask: “If God is so good, how could He ask you to do evil? If He is not good, what point is there in following Him?” Chances are He is not asking you to do anything.
To the religious atheist (yes, this is a creed just like humanism), I ask: “Are you sure that what motivates the zealot is hatred? Make sure you are not extrapolating one person’s confusion after being worked over by a political EARTHLY master and overlaying it on another’s genuine belief that it would be best for everyone to live with God in heaven.”
Obvious conclusion: if all religions were evil we would not have started all of our major institutions (hospitals, universities, governments, civil liberties) when our societies were religious-based. If all moslems were as easily radicalized there would be a cohesive billion strong army on our doorstep. Obviously a LOT of those people would rather aspire towards a heavenly kingdom, not an earthly one.
And one last obvious fact to point out to the radicalized Moslem element: what good is served by converting anyone with the sword? All you have created is a hypocrate or, worse, a person who no longer loves/admires God, but fears/despises Him. I doubt this is what any deity would want from its followers.
February 16th, 2009 at 1:47 am
There is ” TWO ” in every ” ONE”, for universe to be whole there has to be ” HOLE”
February 16th, 2009 at 2:15 am
I spent almost four years in Baghdad with the military. Rarely a day went by when someone wasn’t blowing himself up at a restaurant, petrol station, mosque, market or in some line of people lining up for work. This film is spot on.
February 16th, 2009 at 2:34 am
It think the number of suicide bombings in Iraq is around 2,700 so far. This added with the European train bombings, honor killings, Muslims flying plane loads of people into buildings and blowing up that gym filled with hundreds of Christian school children in Beslan, Russia, it is evident that some people are not seeing peace in love when they read the Quran. Muslim apologists say that terrorists are taking verses out of context. It interesting that Allah’s message could be so vague that some see peace and some see violence. It is also interesting that Allah would give his message to an illiterate, iron age man in a cave 1400 years ago, but is now silent in this age of modern science and technology. It is obvious the Quran is not from God. It is obvious to any thinking person Islam is nonsense.
February 16th, 2009 at 2:48 am
[...] the link to Fitna, if you really can be arsed to watch it (it’s depressing) and if that isn’t a piece of [...]
February 16th, 2009 at 6:12 am
I do not see how they can come close to taking over the world… China could kick there buts, Unless they some how get a hold of lots of Nukes.
February 16th, 2009 at 8:59 am
For all the atheists that are feeling morally superior to everyone I’d like to point out some fine examples of atheistic peace, love, and understanding. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot.
The capacity for evil exsists in every heart.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Nearly every comment has completely missed the point.
If you study the situation in this country you will find that 9% of peoplke attend Church on a Sunday against 90% of Muslims attending the Mosque.
The govenrment supress christianaty but allow Muslins free reign for fear of offending them.
The Leader of the Muslim Councilof Britian has previously stated that if it was not their aim to make Britian Muslim then they had no right to be here. It also states in the Karan that an Oath must be kept but not one made to a non beleiver and that it is permitted to lie to non beleivers to deceive them.It also states that if a non beleiver will not accept Islam then it is acceptable to kill him or her
Islam is a religion spread by violence you are not allowed to leave it you are not allowed free expression unlike Christianaty which is based on giving and sacrifice.
Unless we wake up in this country then we will be Muslim witin 30 years and it will be to late to do anything about it
February 16th, 2009 at 10:27 am
All the signs seemed to be written with the same hand writing, thats fishy!
February 16th, 2009 at 10:51 am
any religion that says you cant eat pork is lies, cant have a FULL ENGLISH with out bacon that’s just crazy…..
February 16th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
I’m glad people are starting to wake up and see what’s happening all around them.
I’m not a rasict, i was born and raised in South Africa and i’ve seen what extreme racism, hatred and intolerance (apartheid) can do to a beautiful country and its beautiful people. It’s horrible having your friends humiliated constantly by their government, treated differantly just because of their skin. It’s frustrating watching your country, a country you know can be a prosperous, beautiful country senselessly being destroyed by intolerance. I was raised in a liberal background and allowed to choose my own religion from an early age, I defend free speech the modern infrastructure we live in today, and any advancements to further improve it, I dispise racism and intolerance, hatred and stupidity.
The fact of the matter is we’re not talking about racism here, we’re talking about self defence, awareness of something that will very soon consume us all “the real hollocaust.” The fact of the matter is, when there’s a war or conflict, either side could win, just because we live in the modern socity we live in today, just because we believe we are “right” and “just” doesn’t meen it can’t get taken away, it happened in South Africa, I can just hope I’m dead before it happens again.
February 16th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
mohhamed (may warp pig shit be poured upon him) MARRIED his wife who was just 6 years old and this is not a religion it is a way of thinking and as of the spies of old who used radio receivers to receive there orders Muslim sleeper cells use not such devices as they have there instructions in the Koran …Mohamed did make a donky fly yet he had slowly and silently get behind the donkey and gave the poor donkey such a fright and as mohamed used his goat grease the donkey did indeed fly ……the middle east were the men are men…and donkeys run like hell……we in the UK suffer due to PC so we have no voice so why did we bother to win ww2 ????
February 16th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
SAY NO no TO “”"”MOMO THE HOMO”"” and the uk people are about to say what they think as for far to long has the muslim being sucking the uk dry yet our political leaders are bound up with pc…no voice…a one way street the time i think is looming as marrying a muslim woman and bringing them into the uk is about to be plugged …..AND I NEED TO ASK WHY THE PAKISTANNIS HAVE THERE MAIN OFFICE OUTSIDE OF LONDON.??? OR IS THAT LONDONISTAN
February 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
HELLO….I AM MOHHAMED AND DUE TO POPULAR DEMMAND IN THE WEST BANK I AM OPENING A SECOND HAND SHOP…AND THE DEMMAND IS AMAZING AS EVERY DAY A MUSLIM WHO HAS DROPED A BOMB AND HIS HANDS HAVE BEEN BLOWN OFF REALY LIKES OUR SERVICES AND JUST THIS WEEK WE ARE DOING A BUY ONE GET ONE FREE OFFER(EXCLUDES IMAMS AS THEY REQUIRE 2 LEFT HANDS) AND WE OFFER A TURBHAN CLEANING SERVICE AND WE ALSO SELL THE TEFLON TURBHAN RANGE AS NOTHING STICKS TO THEM AND ARE VERY POPULAR IN SAUDI ARABIA WHO FUND THE MOST RADICAL FORMS OF ISLAM THROUGH THERE OIL MONEY…SO FILL UP YOUR TANK AND HELP ISLAM..AND WE WE NOW HAVE A HALF PRICE OFFER ON OUR PINK THURBAN RANGES AND THEY ARE INDEED NICE AND THEY DO NOT FALL OFF SO CAN BE QUITE HANDY ON GAY MUSLIM PRIDE DAY WHEN YOU HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE STREETS …..SO HURRY AND PAY US A VISIT AS WE ARE OPEN MOST TIMES DAY OR NIGHT ..AS WE HAVE A LARGE SHELL HOLE IN THE ROOF DELIVERD ON TIME BY THE IDF …..COME SOON
February 16th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Great Movie! XD
February 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
silly sad cunt bags……you fuckers screw with our oil and commodaties you place your armies in our terrortores, then you complain when we fight back…..but wait ,, you arm yourselves with the latest technologies to attack while we arm ourselves with rocks?? u fuckin muppets, neo nazi bitches….And we are….. we are using the system aganist you,,, as for the shops… are u gona open the shop///// eh u fuck…. you buy a tee shirt in a third world country for 50p and sell it for 15… why dont you think about that u whore of babylon,,,,you are cursing your own prophets u dumb fucks…. in retaliation do we go around saying Christ is a !!!!!!! and a had a merry time with Mary the 10 dollar !!!!!! and his group of gang bangers…no….but never mind…..Oh and by the way the cartoonist who drew the pictures of the prophet, google and find out what happened to that respected man…u sad sad bunch of misdirected reemraiders…
February 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I support Geert Wilders. The Qur’an is indeed a hypocrite hate book, and Islam is a fascist underhanded ideology, completly incompatible with Western democracy. Although most Muslims are peaceful it only takes a few to control the majority, just look around you and notice what is taking place in the world today. We are definetly at war however the liberal politically correct refuse to recognize what is in front of their eyes because it may offend some Muslim. Please give me a break.
February 16th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
This video highlights the problem not only with the Qur’an but with all religions. The film highlights what most moderate muslims will tell you is a fundamentalist minority, they will also tell you that there are many verses in the bible that incite murder and war on non-christians. With them I would agree, the problem with these religions is they govern an attitude of faith without question from an early age, what children should be told is to question everything and to take nothing for granted. Religions that condone faith without question creates the perfect atmosphere for senior members of a religious organisation to use this unquestioning faith to turn moderate believers into fundamentalists, usually for there own personnel or political reasons. Despite how my comment may sound, I have no problem with religion, It provides solace and comfort to the vast majority of the world. I also do not think that religion is the cause of evil in the world, Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things, religion just has a habit of making good people do bad things.
A slightly biased but insightful video, A disgrace that he was banned from the UK and a worrying sign of the future…
February 16th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
All religions are horrible man-made money making schemes and world domination plots. Religion either needs to disappear, or become a private non-influential entity.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
To sam
Erm ive read all posts on here not one person is or has backed Christianity as the better Religion, what people are saying is that.
A few Muslims seem produce some weird vision that a “god”
(i use that term very lightly)
will praise them if they strap on some sort of homemade bomb and walk on the London underground, and blow my self up along with a few hundred people.
or fly a passenger plane and fly it into one of the worlds tallest buildings 2,750 deaths.
or behead people just because they are different its just religious bullying,
so sit down and have a good hard think is it worth arguing against?.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
I hate Muslims and its only a matter of time before they are attacked in the same way as they plot and scheme to do.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
How can one defend islam when it states in the Quran to kill people who are non believers?? how can any muslim defend it?
Look at the violence in the islamic countries?
My friend witnessed her cousin having boiling hot water thrown on her back for being a christian in Egypt. A young girl who did nothing wrong but believe in christ. Tell me how that can be defended? Its not just a few individuals.. im not saying every muslim person is bad.. but the religion itself IS. read your own Quran again if you disagree.
February 17th, 2009 at 5:06 am
I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with muslims. They are rude, they’re thieves, they take advantage of our government to get free money, have lots of children while my tax money pays for them to stay on welfare. It is bullshit that they say they are trying to live peaceful lives; In the city I used to live in, they built a gated community where no one but muslims were allowed to live. They created a reproduction of their homeland minus the violence that they were responsible for in the first place, and chose to segregate themselves from the rest of the city. They should be sent back to deal with their mess. Those extremists are muslims just like they are, and they should deal with them. Our country is supposed to be peaceful, and I don’t want any of them here detonating bombs in public places, throwing stones at women and keeping them wrapped up in burqas like they are some sort of shameful reproductive animals. Shame on you, muslims. You may want a peaceful life, but so do I. I used to respect everyone equally, until I moved to this new city filled with muslims who think they own the place, and treat “non-believers” like idiots, low-lives and unequal. They should be grateful for the peace that Canadians have worked so hard to achieve, and leave their violent, animalistic ways behind - or go home.
February 17th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Hi i’m a moroccan ex-muslim so i know islam vey well.
i want european people to know that the problem is not arabs or middle-easterners , it’s ISLAM , this hate-filled ideology destroyed entire civilisations such as the persians in iran and now aims to do the same to western world .
please europe WAKE UP !!!
get rid of political correctness and stop appeasing those out to destroy you and get your freedom of speech back!
February 17th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
i totally agree with this film and if muslims have nothing to hide or be ashamed of why not let the european public see this video on national tv an make up there own minds about islam??
ISLAM the religion teaches muslims from a young age about hatred towards other religions. how can such a peaceful religion preach so much hatred?? how can it be right to look down onto other religions an tel them they are wrong for believing in them??
This world would be a better place if muslims lived in their own country, if they want to live in other non muslim countries they should respect the values and principles of that country like rest of us!!
February 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I am a Brit living and working in Saudi Arabia, ok it was my choice as its tax free but I haft to put up with the 5 prayer times a day, Who said they haft to pray 5 times a day?? Not ALLAH or His son Mohammed, they have tried in vain to convert me to let me join the Happy band as they put it, do I want to??? a bribe of 60,000 Saudi Rials @ 10,000 Pound is given if you do. The young lads smoke more than they ever have done, at weekends they go to Bahrain in there western cloths and get drunk and go with the ladies of the night.( BECAUSE THEY CANT BE SEEN BY ALLAH IN ANOTHER COUNTRY) methinks you may think its a joke but its true. Dont they realise that if there religion takes over all this will stop, they will loose there freedon that they have. What other religion makes women wear black in these tempratures while the men wear white. Yes ok they can hold the world to randsom as they have the oil stocks but they dont work WE do. They have not got a clue what would happen if they started this So called holy war they keep asking for, One Nuclear Bomb would ruin there whole day and there economy but the oil would be ok. I feel the British Goverment is bowing down to them and letting them get away with it, come on guys play the game and get a backbone. Stop them from getting into our country, stop them from preaching there viperouse chit chat in the UK and inciting racial predujice Over here if I was to say anything about there religion I would be Jailed for years or even exeucuted. We are all human whatever our faith, get over it, get them out and tell them to stay out.
Remember: Not all Muslims are Terrorists
But: All Terrorists are Muslims.
Oh also Its not 2009 here its still 1428.
February 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I’m back AGAIN
To Ali Baba: “I spent almost four years in Baghdad with the military. Rarely a day went by when someone wasn’t blowing himself up at a restaurant, petrol station, mosque, market or in some line of people lining up for work. This film is spot on.”
God some people that are commenting on this video are so common and uneducated. There is no need for swearing on something that is so trivial, compared to the REAL ISSUES in todays society.
Oh and by the way, my ten year brother is more mature than you people, and he suffers from autism.
As for those who are saying that the government doesn’t do anything to radical muslim clerics, have you read, listened to or watched the news in your life? Many muslim clerics have had action taken against them for example Yusuf al-Qaradawi and Abu Hamza.
Do you not think that when you talk about our religion with such despicable words, that you are not being extreme with your judgement? Some people have gone as far as insulting Muhammad (SAW/PBUH), without actually looking into the relgion of Islam properly and just blindly follwing what the majority of people are saying.
To be honest you think that you can attack us (e.g. palestine, afghanistan, iraq), insult us, abuse us, despise us and we should just sit back and let it all happen? The reason why people result to terrorism and extremism is because people treat us muslims like a punch bag. They think the can punch us all the want and we won’t retaliate. You can see the effects of that now: September 11th, 7/7 bombings etc. This is all because of lack of respect and tolerance towards our relgion.
Quote: “ISLAM the religion teaches muslims from a young age about hatred towards other religions. how can such a peaceful religion preach so much hatred?? how can it be right to look down onto other religions an tel them they are wrong for believing in them??”
Sorry babe, but you need to get your facts right. Yes, some of those in the minority do teach there children to hate other religions, but this is not every songle Muslim in the world. My own parents have given me such a good upbringing here in the UK. They have told me to respect other relgions, and see their real beauty. I have followed their advice, and I have had no problems at all with anyone since Muslims were put in a bad light on 9/11.
To Adam: “SAY NO no TO “”””MOMO THE HOMO””” and the uk people are about to say what they think as for far to long has the muslim being sucking the uk dry yet our political leaders are bound up with pc…no voice…a one way street the time i think is looming as marrying a muslim woman and bringing them into the uk is about to be plugged …..AND I NEED TO ASK WHY THE PAKISTANNIS HAVE THERE MAIN OFFICE OUTSIDE OF LONDON.??? OR IS THAT LONDONISTAN”
I Think you’ll be finding that most countries have an embassy in London, as it is the capital city of England. Oh, and I think you might need to straighten your grammar up a bit
I would like to make a point out of what you said. You said that suicide bombers were blowing up MOSQUES. So therefore, how can you (not you personally Ali Baba) say that Muslims hate non believers when they are blowing up those of their own religion?
Why can’t we just live in a peaceful society?
February 17th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Well thank you Jacqui Smith for drawing me to this Video!! If it were not for the fact she had banned someone from coming into my country to show this film I would never have known about it. Why are Muslims so scared to allow this to be seen here in the UK?its ok to talk about Islam and its suffering if you happen to be Muslim, If you dare speak out… you are immediatly condemmed and ” 10.000″ Muslims will marching again on the streets of London demanding beheadings and more acts of terror (such a peaceful bunch) I worked in an environment where I had to deal with convicted terrorist’s and unconvicted suspect terrorists, the level of hatred I witnesed towards anything that was not to the liking of them was truely worrying. It was deemed perfectly fine to seek and gain asylum then turn your hatred agaignst the country that had just helped you.. It was fine then to exploit the welfare state to your benefit, again not a crime in the eyes of the extremist.It was fine to plot to behead soldiers on leave it is fine to plant bombs on tubes as EVERYONE who is a non believer is a legitmate target.(Witnessed while sat in Court with 4 terror suspects) if the general public was allowed to hear the real views of these people (un edited) then maybe the liberal elite may be forced to react. The decent majority of Muslims need to be far more vocal in distancing themselves from the warped few intent on turning the UK in to a Muslim enclave!
A common denominator in every hotspot in the world is the word….Muslim… Somalia, Sudan, Bali, Try a new approach get on with other nations and other religions, practice tolerance instead of hatred when you dont like a cartoon/book/film comment.
February 17th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Eh Khushbu, it might be an idea to examine your own grammer before you start criticising others. For example, “The reason why people result to terrorism”, I presume you meant “resort to terrorism”? Also “I Think you’ll be finding that most countries ” should be “I think you’ll find that most countries”. There are more but I really don’t care about grammer mistakes on blogs but I thought it was funny you would try and correct someone else without even double checking your own…
February 17th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Having read the Qu’ran, Hadith and Ahadith I can only say Mr Wilders film is accurate as to the content of the Qu’ran and its interpretation by mainstream Wahhabi Muslims (the majority of Muslims worldwide and almost all imams in the UK are Wahhabi).
Just imagine what trouble Wilders would have been in if he had mentioned the Qurannic verses describing how the 50 year old Mohammed groomed Aliysha for paedophilia for a year, married her aged six and then subjecting her to ever worsening sexual abuse until he raped her repeatedly from the age of eight. The strength of the paedophile Mohammed’s charisma is undoubted as Aliysha was the most loyal of his eight wives and was an evangelist for the cult of Mohammed long after his death.
It is a wildly unbalanced religion that idolises a paedophile and promotes paedophilia but calls for unending violence against unbelievers, barbaric punishments for adulterous women and for homosexuals to be killed.
February 17th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Khushbu you wrote
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God some people that are commenting on this video are so common and uneducated
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Freedom of speech all can say what ever they want to say regardless.
but maybe your used to people shutting up and not saying there mind?.
February 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
the film is factual. not all muslims are evil people and the same like many of us who gets on peacefuly with their daily lives. the truth is islamic religion shares core values of intolerance, violence, subjugation of human reason and hatred. the islamic verses presented justifies this. the people in the film are not radicals but true practitioners of islam - they are the true muslims.
today a person who claims to received messages from an angel and no one believes will be diagnosed to have schizoprenia and given tablets. but if there are several people believing the message then it’s no longer schizoprenia but religion. if prophet mohammed revealed the quran in 2009 he will just be given tablets and hospitalised.
the quran is nothing more but schizoprenic journals. if allah is god why can’t he fight for himself? this is a challenge for all true muslims…let allah do the fighting and you will live in peace.
February 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
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February 18th, 2009 at 6:06 am
بِلِسَانِكَ لِتُبَشِّرَ بِهِ
So We have only made it easy in your tongue that you may give good news
February 18th, 2009 at 6:17 am
I think people need to chill out. One could just as easily make a movie depicting the Klu Klux Klan, say, who are Christian and are racist, murderous scumbags, and make the case that christianity is evil.
The fact is, extremism is the problem, not ISLAM.
Islam, alone, is no better or worse than any other religion. I’m not religious, but for personal reasons I took it upon myself to read the Bible and the Qu’ran. To my amazement, the Qu’ran actually forbids all form of violence against women. Honor killings are a cultural anomaly, not a religious one, and then again, only an imbecile could subscribe to this view. After all, a man who would kill his own daughter has no honor to defend. He is an animal. A piece of human excrement.
Even the prophet would condemn his actions. But you can get a priest or imam to twist words into pretzels of Escherian logic.
End the hate, and the stereotypes. Stop imagining. a lot of what was portrayed in this movie was taken out of context, which makes it a joke.
You don’t need to play their game to illustrate the folly of extremism.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:01 am
There were no hijacked planes simpletons.
911 videos are computer-generated fakes. It’s a fascist coup and the media is nothing but the propaganda arm of the arms manufacturers. No excuses for idiocy.
Treason!
February 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I’ve just watched this film. Although I am not a muslim, my familly are. My dad came to UK in the 50’s and has done nothing but contribute to this country. He has worked and set up business in the UK for 50 years. He has paid his taxes and never committed a crime, never claimed any benfits. He is a practicing muslim but does not agree with the views of exremist muslim. He is like the majority of muslims in this country. Just good people.
What this film does is show the views of extremists muslims. Just as with any religion there are extremists who take the Quran and focus on parts of it to fuel their own views and hatred. They are not representitive of the majority. We must make a distinction between exremism and the majority of muslims.
This film is actually propaganda, designed to fuel fear and hatred, not unlike the muslim extremism. It shows the extremists views, quoting a handfull of verses from the Quran, the Quran has thousands of verses! Then it tries to suggest that the increasing population of muslims in Holland and Europe somehow is related to this extremist islamic threat. What a load of rubbish. It’s fuel for the uneducated, racists and is just as much a threat to good society as extremist Islam. Nazism was fueled by a hatred of the jews. This film is no different, it’s just one form of extremism against another.
We can either ban all forms of extremism or get rid of it through education. I say educate. There will always be extremists amongst us we just need to see them for what they are.
February 18th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
The funny thing about this is that you can find similar movies about christianity and the bible. There are just as extreme and horrible lines in the bible as in the koran.
The ONLY difference is that in the world today we don’t have a single CHRISTIAN THEOCRACY following THE BIBLE, if we had that we would be worrying about crusades against nonbelivers instead of jihad againt infidels. Same shit different name.
If the vatican was still in power in europe I’m pretty sure we would still be waging crusades against islam. (and other religions)
Both christianity and islam breed their own extremists, and both are equally bad. Those two are seriously the biggest threaths to modern society. Anyone who simply belives things because of faith are a threat to anyone else not sharing their point of view.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Masood
how can you say this is propaganda its the words from your Quran,
i don’t see how you can lie about that most white British people are atheist, me myself i am pagan and if i lead my life by a book saying random words i would feel like a robot.
We humans work better as a whole as long as there are barriers to hinder us from being one race regardless of color, sex or sexual preferences i don’t see us ever evolving into something ever better i feel so sorry for our future children…..
February 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
i think this is so true and it is im acctuly sick of muslims befor watching this but this video is true i was sickened by my goverment who did not allow the dutch man in uk, they said for securtiy reasons well if muslims have a violent protest then it should be delt with as all riots are i was never this sick of them but theres a boiling point and they have reached it. i would see this world burnt to a crisp befor islam takes over. they say kill enemys which is me then i will stand up. iv already had to defend my self against some muslims but the police never chaced it up. i had to beat up 4 of them befor they ran i want justice i want my britian back.
February 19th, 2009 at 1:55 am
We are seeing what may become of Western civilization on a daily basis. It is up to freedom loving people everywhere to support the work of Mr.Wilders and people like him. Shame on the British Government for caving in to the mob rule of islam. Shame on the British people for not speaking out in support of free speech.
I have noted that it appears to be acceptable for muslims in the streets of London to call for the blood of jews. Yet it is apparently unacceptable for any other person to call attention to the daily atrocities committed by the so called religion of peace.
More power to you Mr.Wilders - may your message continue to get out until the west finally wakes up.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:50 am
Who is right? Who is wrong? - God knows.
Who is God? - Nobody knows.
Being a Human I learnt we need someone to blame & therfore nothing better then GOD.(To have a equation to our failure and faults as human there is no better instrument of Gods & Religon).
We all the same kind (Human), who fear each other (in the name of religions, country, politics ect) and are finishing our kind (Human Race)in name of God (Who nobody knows).
Some practice religion actively, some practice religion passively, some don’t practice nothing. Religion is personal, not a thing to practices in general.
February 19th, 2009 at 3:09 am
God bless Geert Wilders for speaking up!
Somebody has to do it!
The world is in trouble,especially the UK(I was born there,but am ashamed of the gov. -weaked willed ninnies,who like Neville Chamberlain,think by appeasing the bully(in his time: Hitler)(in this case “Islam!”)they can have peace!
The New World Order (mostly Illuminati and 33 deg. Freemasons) are behind this.
ie: Why is the worldwide media favouring Same-Sex Marriage,Gays and now Islam and censoring anything that is contrary to them!
Why are people so dumb to accept this “brain-washing” and “mind-control” that is going on!
Think!
The facts:
Islam is NOT,nor has it EVER been a religion(actually ‘ideology’ is a better word)of “peace”!
While the moderates lie to you and tell you “Islam is a religion of peace” the radicals(in the mosques -on YOUR land!) are planning world takeover -and the death of anyone who won’t bow to Islam!
It is an ideology of hate,murder and violence.
( look up “Maim,Sweden!”)-see the results of Muslim immigration,there!
Islam’s history speaks for itself!
Armenia -early 1900s,Muslim invaders murdered many Armenians
Spain -Moor invasion -bloodbath
Sicily -the same!
TODAY,in Indonesia,Pakistan and others,MORE Christians are
murdered by MUSLIMS …EVERYDAY than all the HAMAS’ INFLATED TOTALS of Palestinian deaths in the Gaza war recently!
EVERYWHERE,Islam has gone and IS going trouble has followed and IS following!
Muslim Clerics and Islamic radicals were involved in EVERY anti-israel march during the recent Gaza war!They are also Campaigning VEHEMENTLY on every front for Islamic favour and against ANYONE who speaks out against Islam!
The barbaric religion of Islam should be banned worldwide,it adherents deported,jailed,or whatever,and NO muslims should be allowed into ANY country!
Why? They make trouble,spread a religion of hate,violence and murder!
A to the other poster’s anti-christian diatribe -every the Bible has gone,life has changed for the better(read the effects of the King James Bible upon the UK in 1611!)…everywhere the Qurqan and Islam has gone MAYHEM has been the result!
Fortunately,I have read the Bible and HE will destroy the forces of Islam -soon
People need to realize there is NO middle ground!
Islam tolerates NOBODY but itself!
Yeshus/Jesus and the BIBLE is the ONLY answer to Islam!
My prayer is that The Netherlamnds,like Leiden and the Pilgrims will change the world again!
February 19th, 2009 at 4:30 am
I think that all their beliefs are pyhsically and morally wrong. how can you say to kill jews, gays and christians like? fuck allah, he can go suck my christian bellend for all i care. See if Mueslims come to Northern Ireland and try to bomb us i’ll be well round to any muslims house and burning that shit hole like. if theres a third world war i’ll be well up for pawning so filth like.
Save The Queen
Save The Pope
Save Europe
Save Christianity
Fuck Mueslims
Fuck Islam
Fuck The Koran
February 19th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Here is the truth and yeah some peolple will say i have muslim friend bla bla they are not like this but my friend the only truth is that he is a muslim and he can do anything and he is licensed to do it.i cannot understand take gaza for example The eu is donating money etc etc … there are so many people dying in africa and many parts of the world with hunger give the needy food as in gaza they have fund to buy weapons. We talk about their rights do Muslim think abt our rigths. Peole agree or not they are not humans
February 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Richard: “TODAY,in Indonesia,Pakistan and others,MORE Christians are murdered by MUSLIMS”
Erm Richard, I’m taking it you didn’t hear about the thousands of Christians that were murdered not so long ago in India by HINDU EXTREMISTS. Obviously not then.
Jacob: Before you start hate us (Muslims) at least learn how to spell the word correctly
And for the people who say that the government are not doing anything against Muslim clerics, do I need to remind of the Abu Qatada case hearing yesterday?
February 19th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
khusbu: SO can you tell me why in country where there is ONLY muslim there are bomb blast or so many people dying, i give you example (pakistan irak.
February 19th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Shay: Firstly, you can learn how to spell my name correctly, and secondly there are Christians and other religious minorities living in Pakistan. As for your question, it is not civilian Pakistani’s or Iraqi’s (and that’s Iraq with a “q”, not with a “k”), but it is the militant extremist groups, such as Al-Qaeda, that organise such bombings. They will not let any Muslim state progress forward if they join hand with what everyone who commented on this video has established as “non-believers”, e.g. America. They are scared that once a Muslim country joins hands with a western power, they will be slaughtered and killed, and this is in fact true.
For example, President Zardari has agreed to hand over any terrorists he finds in Pakistan. This has lead to widespread bombings all over the country, and may I just point out, that my cousins and aunty were nearly killed in one of these bombings in Lahore. Al-Qaeda has burnt down secondary and primary schools that used to teach girls, as they believe that girls should not be educated, and that their rightful place is at home. Do you think that we agree with such a reign of terror? Of course not! In fact, when I sit with my family, and listen to the news and hear of the bombings, and killings on masses of innocent people, it burns my heart. How can any Muslim, whether terrorist or not, do this to anyone, regardless of religion or race? Do you think that all Muslims are like those extremists that reside in the foothills of the Himalaya’s, or in the rural villages of Pakistan and Afghanistan?
Let me answer that for everyone who is reading this. We are not like them. We want peace, and all we are asking for is that people of every race, colour and religion join hands and fight for this noble cause, and ease the suffering of those who are needlessly made to suffer on a daily basis.
February 19th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Abolish all religions in any political context. Fanaticism is an insanity. And insane people should not rule others.
February 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Frightening. Although this video only covers the extreme views of Muslims. Do not forget there are followers of Islam who believe in peaceful living… like any other religion, there are diversities. Don’t discriminate the entire religion, be prepared against those who turn their religion into violence and hatred.
I always thought the basis of religion was to put reason to life and living.. not to destroy it?
February 19th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
It is great job of mr.Wilders.Nobody knows Islam more than me.It is true it is not a religion. They have NO Leaders.They do not hate hate not NON MUSLIMS only They hate each other as well if anybody has a doubt I can show in the society.Name does not mean anything but my character,if I name name myself MR.Honest and keep on stealing everyday people see me say he thief I saw and I keep on justifying that No can’t be me My Name is Mr.Honest.We in modern world judge people by deeds and Acts.If prophet Muhamad himself married his adopted son’s Zaid Bin Hareeth son’s wife Zainab Bin Hareetha,after telling him to divorce her Allah asked me marry your wife.Muhamad already had so many wives.God always said do not kill.Do not lust for somebody else’s wife.there is only one God one heaven.Which heaven they are doing to?
In Swat valley terrorists joined terrorists. Shariat law Fatwa means taking God’s work in their OWN hands and killing people in the name of allah.Qazi s(judges) ordering killings of poor(not rich nobody can break their big gates and see but forget God is) people for adultery are greater adulter….. I can prove..This world people want in 21st century. I request them to understsand open eyes and look around.Allama Iqbal taught them with LOVE you can conquer the WORLD but they under estimated him.Regions build civilizations,WESTERN WORLD is product of CHRISTAN Faith and it reflects it.Mr.Geert Wilders is not enemy of any muslim but friend indeed.He is only trying to show you a MIRROR………And those kill to get 72 HOORS in heaven let me REMIND you after death you all know your funeral will be soon as possible and be burried in ground including your SEX Organ.What will you do to 72 hoors.SPIRIT does not need these things NOT even service ….May God almighty forgive and save every human being……….A MEEN.
February 20th, 2009 at 4:29 am
The islamic people are not radicalists, or extremists . Its the radicalist extremist ideology of islam and the Koran that turn innocent men, women and children into extreme radicalists ready to bring down western society for an invisible puppeteer. I do pity those forced into Islamic worship and culture, and perhaps there are even those who wish to escape from it - Just as if a man or woman gets cancer, they wish to be rid of it - But can we help them or cure them? No. I - for one, am not prepared to let such a barbaric and viscious religion and culture practice in our country without some opposition. Just as it is their human right to have their own opinions and thoughts, it is ours also to have our own opinions and thoughts.
February 20th, 2009 at 4:44 am
Things like this make me glad I turned away from religon when I was young. Religion causes nothing but hatred and bloodshed. Like the video said we stopped nazis. We stopped communism. So lets stop this here and now as a united continent. Lets strike back and take our freedom back.
February 20th, 2009 at 4:53 am
TO ysadiq
thanks for the enlightenment and a honest reply
Geert Wilders has done nothing wrong in my Eyes he has not lied and he has not tried to spread hate among religions.
I see it as a few people from the Muslim faith have caused
FEAR
and unsettled the fine balance between us all
but unfortunately We can’t read minds We can only try to understand people the best we can that’s where the problem stands
and always will.
to sum it up
you are different from us, as we are to you.
it will always be the same I feel a hint of unrest between all our cultures we are to diverse to be called one race now,
YES we are all the same inside, but all our minds run on different tracks so therefor we all see things differently, ideas and views but we all see physical actions as the same. (I.E) suicide bombers for the Islamic cause
why would one person want to give hes life for a religion?
i can’t contemplate that the only word that really seems to fit into place is FEAR and fear makes us all do Extreme Actions
“Fear God and he will give you knowledge” (Al-Quran-2:282).
surely then why would you fear a entity that spreads love and peace? and once more it comes back to FEAR and fear makes us all do Extreme Actions it all depends on ones perception on contradicting phrases and words
i see the Quran as a very hard Book to correctly understand.
thank you.
February 20th, 2009 at 4:54 am
We WILL live in peace, when the muslims are hanging from crosses, when they are cut down for the sport of their own crows! Then, then we shall have peace.
February 20th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Matt you being just like one of the extremest Muslim clerics but on the flip side.
that’s been tried and tested and them sort of actions started
World War 2
February 20th, 2009 at 11:38 am
This is where we are lagging behind we think about their rights DO THEY THINK ABOUT OURS. evrywhere in the world where there are muslims there is problems hatred violence so how you explain this. And yes some people are bothered about a word or their name not written correctly. thats not the point here.(kusbu). today they having become the dominating religion in the world so there is nothing bad in it? this is waht many of you will say! this is how they operate my friend they are spreading all over the world. soon you or the future generation will be strangers in their own country. think well about this
February 20th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
it’s funny people still believe in this funny bullshit.christian,muslim,jew.who the fxxk care about them.they think they are right?why don’t they ask the other million other religion out there?they so scared of hell they end out turning their life into hell.”my GOD have a bigger dick then YOUR GOD!” - George Carlin
. So,who’s right?you don’t have to believe in stupid jesus or islam to be spritual.just be good and happy
February 20th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
To be honest shay I’m not going to bother arguing with you. If I had my own way in this country, I would kick out all the Muslim clerics because all they are doing is giving Islam and Muslims a bad name. We are ridiculed where ever we go, and all because of some stupid man, brainwashing the youngsters of today. And do you know something else? I’m glad that the likes of Abu Hamza have been extradited from the country. I will stand for anything I believe is right, even if that does mean seeing fellow Muslims being extradited. At the end of the day, it’s for our betterment.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Great film, it show exactly what the muslim swine are up to, world domination and the subjugation of the human race. First the Netherlands then Europe the the rest of the world and our gutless PC governments are allowing this to happen through fear of offending the muslim MINORITY.
Fuck Allah, Fuck the Quran, Fuck islam.
There will be blood on the streets, will you be ready???
February 20th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
I observe that there is a peaceful religion called Islam and a fanatical cult called Islam. I suggest that it’s unwise to call them both by the same name.
February 21st, 2009 at 6:10 am
“Abolish all religions in any political context. Fanaticism is an insanity. And insane people should not rule others.” ????
More people have been killed under atheism than any religious cause (Pol Pot, Stalin, etc.). How could someone trust an atheistic society where no one believes in final judgement and only thinks of today. Yes you can be a FINE person, but if I, your neighbor, am more pragmatic (ie. there is only this life so why should I suffer?) and you are careless and leave your door unlocked while you are away–hey no one is looking, right? Oh, but that’s wrong to steal right? Well…why? Who said? Common knowledge? Oh, that’s just your belief, not mine. Mine is survival of the fittest. Sorry, I’m faster than you and smarter so I survive and you don’t. Finders keepers. Rule of the jungle. You pick…
With no one watching, and no religion–unless I am caught–no one cares what I do. Well…you might, but if I don’t care about you, and that’s my reality, who is to say I am wrong?
What if everyone lived that way? Atheists only have it good now because most other people are religious so they do not have to always be on guard.
Think I’m wrong? What about if…
You are a tourist in a large city and are walking down a dark alley because you took a wrong turn on your way back to your hotel. You are getting worried because it is late and you do not know the area. Suddenly you see two big guys coming toward you at a rapid clip. One guy is in studs and leather and the other guy has tattoos all over his visible skin. The alley is not wide so you will have to pass fairly close by. Should you turn around or approach them and ask for directions?
Now repeat this scenaria, but a light from a nearby window shows that one of these fellows is carrying a bible and the other one has a cross around his neck and a clear complexion. Do you run now, or ask directions?
If you think a man fears God and ultimate justice you can be much more certain he will be fair with you (even if for no more than the selfish reason that he wants to get to Heaven). What such incentive exists for the TRUE atheist?
February 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
im sorry Jelrak but you don’t know that for sure, how can you tell if a religious person is evil or not like a Christians
the Holocaust, the Inquisition, Crusades,
now look at a Islam
indo-Pakistani War,
Somali Civil War,
2007 Lebanon conflict,
Iran–Iraq War,
the list is very extensive
but it must of started with one person, i would rather die by my views rather then some BOOK telling me to die for a invisible cause,
just face the facts there is no holy being if there was hes probably long gone, i would not watch my children kill them self’s would you
science disproves a vast majority of religions
now i don’t see how any one can dislike atheism. its just a person being a human being not a puppet…
February 21st, 2009 at 1:47 pm
THAT IS A GOOD ONE FROM YOU.
ARE YOU AN INFEDAL, ENEMY TO MUSLIMS AND ALLAH IF NOT WHY ARE YOU MAKING SUCH REF. AH YOU HAVE EXPOSE YOUR SELF AND REAL ENMITY TO ALLAH AND MUSLIMS.
February 21st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
well then Joseph get Muslims like you out of England because views like yours are real enmity to peace between us all go back to your slums and dirty streets and no health care and no state benefit you stupid person…
February 21st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Hey Garry, I was not meaning that a religious person is defacto better just because they are religious (as, I agree it depends on the religion). I was more responding to the simplistic view that atheism was better just because SOME religious people confuse their religious zeal for political opportunism (the root cause of the wars you mentioned) because atheistic people do the same. I was also pointing out that an atheistic society has its evils as well (not everyone is live and let live and with no overriding common belief to structure society around how can one know what to expect from an individual?). The point between the characters in the alley is that if one is holding a bible you have a fairly good chance of forming a basic insight into what their beliefs are so you can act accordingly; otherwise everything is guesswork.
I have been around the atheistic track before (and might return again), but for pragmatic reasons let’s say I have made my peace with God. Oh, why not give my reasons:
1) If God exists and I do not believe in Him, when I die I could be in serious trouble.
2) If God does not exist and I believe in Him, nothing happens when I die.
3) If God does not exist and I do not believe in Him, nothing happens when I die.
4) If God exists and I believe in Him, I may go to Heaven for all eternity (like all religions seem to expect).
The only option with any hope attached to it is #4 so why run the risk of #1? Besides, just considering the possibility of eternity (the size of space, the duration of the universe) keeps me just uncertain enough to consider that no matter how far back you go, something had to cause everything to happen. I am not sure what, but I am more likely to believe it to be a being with a purpose than a mathematical non-entity because how could a non-entity create anything alive?
A final point is that if there is no God, there is no point to being alive (no, today’s trade off of pleasures and pain is NOT worth the effort as it is all temporary) since when we die all memory will cease. What then is the purpose of living a single extra day since death and its results are a foregone conclusion? You will not know the difference once you are dead so is it not simpler just to die and get things over with? I know this is fatalistic, but what purpose is there in putting off the inevitable? If life has no greater meaning than whether or not one has enough food to eat one day to the next should not one move on so there are more resources for others? I do NOT advocate this as I would really miss all of my atheistic friends! It is just the line of reasoning that led me out of atheism.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Dear Mr Jelrak,
Sorry to see that you belive and think that MAN LIKE a animal we will die like an animal and nothing will happen.Like we kill animal and cook and eat it.DON’T YOU THINK we are much more than that.man is king of universe and rules it do what he wants eats what he wants.DONT YOU THINK YOU ARE SUPERIOR THAN EVERY CREATION.I WILL SUGGEST you to read Holy BIble specially new testament.GOD IS SPIRIT YOU ARE PHYSICAL HUMAN BODY.You cannot see God Almighty with these eyes.He came to this world ONLY two centuries ago.Where fathers touched saw HIM, then he had to go to take control of his position.There are still places in Jerusalem where you can witness His olace of birth, where he spoke to people and where he was crucified.Where he proved that HE IS GOD.Do you if these people of this world will not kill him if they could see HIM.
Everything here you see now has age even houses man animal etc.How can you see him in destructive world.You can see HIM in THE people believe HIM like pope and other religious people JOHN PAUL II,MOTHER TEREASA ETC THOUGH they are not rich,but they live long lives and bring so much GOOD to the world by their love for everyone.God is not far from you he is right there very close to please do not deny him he in side and do not think like animals.GOD LOVES YOU.
February 22nd, 2009 at 1:51 am
All this film does is create more prejudice. You will find hateful/vengeful/violent verses in any other holy book. And if you take the time to look back, you will find that your religion (which ever one it may be) and its followers has done some pretty violent things in the past. Any educated Christian knows that the church has committed countless murders, forced countless people to convert to Christianity and is the reason why there still remains prejudice against women in todays society. Today’s Christians are more broadminded, but thats just today. There was a time not so long ago when the church travelled the globe trying to ‘enlighten’ the world about the ‘right’ religion. I grew up in a Christian school where we were told that when Jesus Christ came back down to earth (which apparently should happen some time soon) he would take ‘his’ people up to heaven and the rest of us would burn in hell.
And how about my religion, Hinduism? Are ‘we’ any better? Nope. Hindus have murdered Christians, Muslims, Sikhs and God knows who else, forced their OWN wives to jump into their husbands funeral pyres and burn themselves to death, murdered their OWN new born daughters (for not being sons), and have done countless other things that would be considered atrocities in today’s society.
Is Islam that different? Are all Muslims consumed with world domination and jihad? No, you ignorant morons. I have grown up in India and now study in the UK and some of my closest friends are Muslims. I have spent time in their homes, eaten their food and lived among them. I’m not sure how much westerners know about Hindu-Muslim rivalry but lets just say that ‘we’ve’ hated each other for pretty much most of the last century. But the Muslims I’ve known have been some of the kindest, most peaceful people I’ve ever met - and I’m from the most diverse democracy in the world. I also know wonderful Hindus, Christians, Sikhs.
It is ridiculous to stereotype a billion people. If they all felt the way this immature, prejudiced film said they did then why isn’t there a Muslim army - one billion Muslims marching into our homes right now? Why are Islamic fundamentalists also butchering Muslims in their bombings? Don’t you think there were Muslims inside the twin towers?
I know how much the ‘good Muslims’ are horrified and disgusted by Islamic terrorism.
I am no fool either. I know that an alarming number of Muslims are exactly the way the film portrays them to be - but not all of them. Not even most of them. And, there are hundreds of peaceful passages in the Koran, its just not what people want to see. A film about how good Islam is won’t stir up any publicity. Or make the film makers any money.
So don’t think the next Muslim you see on the street is a killer or whatever. Grow up and educate yourself.
Religion has been created by man. Have the sense to see that. This film is pathetic and will just make the uneducated prejudiced against all Muslims.
February 22nd, 2009 at 2:35 am
well Jelrak
im a Pagan so my view on atheism is as follows when we are born we are free maybe just for that day we are free and Innocent, so as we get older our mother are father then impose a religion and some don’t, now no matter what, each religion affects us all on way or another the west world gets oil among other things and the east gets trade from the west among other things,
so if im a atheist no matter what religion will affect me, if all religions where erased then one persons views wont be tainted by the thought of “will these words offend him”
lets say for instants “holy shit” would that offend a devout christian i could not know for sure, one could never know for sure because taking religion away is impossible but we are born as a atheist no matter what because a new born cant comprehend what hes feet are for let alone a holy faith, if god was all powerful he would give us knowledge at birth i know i would, it would save all the wars and bloodshed would it not????
February 22nd, 2009 at 6:59 am
I agree with your reasoning, Garry (I have often thought the same), but I still get hung up on the idea that with no common moral framework, an atheistic society is going to be full of all kinds of its own misunderstandings. It does not solve the problem, but just begins a new set.
I also agree that religious people do need to grow up and realize that being “offended” by someone else’s ignorance or religious faux pas is no way to convince everyone that you follow an ALL POWERFUL/ALL LOVING deity (who clearly should be able to see the difference between accidental offence and purposeful malice). It is hard to sympathize with a religious zealot who LOVES God so much that he harms/kills/tortures you for disagreeing in the validity of his faith. It seems a very insecure faith that reacts that way.
I simply think that the universe is too large and unknown for us, living on a tiny speck of a world, to assume that we know the big picture well enough to ignore what might be God because He may well exist.
Although I have to agree with you that life would be so much simpler if God did not exist. But if the odds are even remote that He might, I am risking a great deal by blocking Him from my life completely.
Even if I should treat the potential of God existing with the same unlikelihood that my house might burn down, how could I explain having fire insurance, but not taking out insurance on something of potentially far greater value–an immortal soul? I guess I just am not much of a gambler…
February 22nd, 2009 at 8:56 am
If it were up to me, I would have the muslim religion become a crime (as it is a religion of hate, and a crime against humanity), better yet a hate crime. Then I would inprison any muslim who continued this path of hatred and death, for the muslim religion is nothing more than a hate breeding religion, written by men who hate life. There is no allah, and never was. Mohamed was no more than a fictional character made up to have a way to control people.
February 22nd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Garry,
I see that you have made reference to the indo-Pakistan war. Do yoiu even know what it was about? Muslims just wanted a seperate land, because they were fed up of the English conscripting them into armies and making them do things that were not permitted in Islam, e.g. using bullets that were made out pig fat. These bullets needed to be chewed beforehand, and in Islam, we believe that pig are haram (not permitted/forbidden).
February 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Im amazed - for all those ‘enlightened’ people who claim this film is propaganda, perhaps you should read the Koran and see for yourself if any of what is portrayed is true. And seriously, while there may be a few objectionable verses in other religion’s books, there is simply nothing like the horendous hatred and intolerance that permiates much of the Koran.
The simple reason that educated people flew planes in to buildings or kill ‘innocents’ or themselves for Alah is because it is there in black and white in the Koran. Abuse of women is there too and it is simply time to declare the Koran as a dangerous book for modern civilisation and needs to be openly discussed for all to see.
Iran now has the bomb and if we dont do something soon, we will all soon be witness to another 9/11 in the name of Alah, but this time the devistation will be unimagineable.
Most Muslims do not read the Koran but declare their religion as a cultural thing, the unfortunate issues is that their leaders REALLY DO want peace - but only on their terms, and movies like this will get some more people looking more closely at what part the Koran plays in the enormous violence it promotes against the unbelievers (everyone who is not Muslim)
I was a sceptic until I looked in to it - now I am afraid our political correctness and tolerence is now being used against us and we face the real possibility that we will eventually be politically forced back in to the stone age.
MORE PEOPLE NEED TO STAND UP ! and PLEASE read the Koran if you wish to comment futher - there is MUCH to discover.
February 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Garry and khushbu; If muslims wanted seperate land for why did they leave so many muslims behind.More muslims live in India than in seperate muslim country Pakistan.Where they do not know how to form a good society and government.No muslim country can except kingdom or army or dictator.While in India Hindu and Christian congress leader still let be Presidents,prime ministers etc.While in seperated muslim country will never have peace it will go worse every one will see.
Islamic law sharia law means we create hell on earth taking God’s work in our hands, while killers are sinners themselves. What about Judgement day or kiamat.What will God do when we have done everything ourselves.PLEASE THINK DO NOT LET PEOPLE FOOL YOU.Seperate country Pakistan has made the lives of people of sub continent miserable specially pakistani people.Muslims better off in India than Pakistan you ask them.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
This is an important film, not for the accuracy of it’s content because that is in itself wholly subjective and one-sided. Instead, it’s importance lies in the challenge it sets for Western Civilization, liberal democracy and Judeo-Christianity.
Firstly, one needs to draw the distinction between Islam and Islamism. I reccommend Martin Amis’ recent book ‘The Second Plane’ for a readable non-academic description of the two concepts.
Secondly, Islam is in need of reformation. The only way to deal with Islamism is through a redefinition of Islam. We are seeing the beginning of this process in some Muslim countries. The West must do all it can to encourage this ‘reformation’ without turning encouragement into appeasement.
Finally, the West should be prepared to put it’s money where it’s mouth is. The war in Afghanistan is the front-line in the clash of civilizations. NATO and non nato countries (such as my own, The Republic of Ireland) need to ante up to defeat Talibanism and Islamism.
If Fitna produces anything it should be Western Awareness that the enemy is within and without and eventually we need to take a stand.
I commend and support this film and it’s film maker.
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 pm
In Quran I have said manything for the time and location and certain people and does not apply today. God has not left you be kind to your kind
Some people hide behind Islam, som behind Democracy. Be wise! There are good and bad in everything.
ALLAH could also mean All. Islam is submission to will of All and Allah or God for purpose of Peace. Be wise and kind.
To force in believing or disbelieving me, you will have to answer me in judgment day.
I gave you choice so you could accept responsibility.
I am in everyone, nothing can be hidden from me. Be wise and kind and you will be closer to me.
There is ” TWO ” in every ” ONE”, for universe to be whole there has to be ” HOLE”
بِلِسَانِكَ لِتُبَشِّرَ بِهِ
So We have only made it easy in your tongue that you may give good news
be honest with yourself, the least and most you could do.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:02 am
I have heard a great deal about “Fitna,” and I have finally gotten the chance to see it. It’s a very frightening movie, but the treatment Mr. Wilders is receiving is even more frightening.
I can’t believe the UK would permit radical Muslim imams to enter the country and spew their hatred, but deny Mr. Wilders entry.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:01 am
How long we will have to sleep,be more and more tolerant.How long? Before John REED ex home secretary was deined entry into EAST LONDON Elected MP and government minister in his own country .Then Miss C.Rice US secretary of state with Jack Straw in Blackburn a asylum seeker woman ………and now Wilders ….Tomorrow Pope or any other cannot come here because minorty NOT majority does not want……. Britain is very very tolerant society there no doubt about it but Is the minority muslims are tolerant NOT at all.When there there is terrorist act they praise it or KEEP THEIR SILENCE.They do not condemn the or do something in their society to educate people tell we should not do this THIS IS OUR country and we are also resposible for the peace of this country.India has his independence by GHANDHI JI’S peacefull process.You can win anything with LOVE BUT BY HATE.Hate is a DEVIL(satan) PLEASE MUSLIMS STAY AWAY FROM HATE ,HATE will gain you nothing not even GOD who is full of LOVE.Think you why we have to called terrorist? Why being muslim I have to join terrorists ? Do I deserve this kind of treatment at airports or places when they know i am muslim? Why should I stand at a plateform of HATE ? Why not choose a peacefull way of life……..Please do not make this world HELL leave it for your future.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
This is just a drama,against islam, just see this video on u tube, for reply thank you
February 24th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
just see this video on u tube for reply Fitna The Movie Geert Wilders Film English Islamic
February 25th, 2009 at 4:18 am
the bible is a book of propechy a quater of the bible deals in futre events the quaron has no propechy about the futher not one word the truth is simple jesues died for our sins isreal is his choosen people, has not god punished isreal for its faults were did alla punbish islam for its turning its back on the koren never islam you follow a god of death so shall you inherite what you sow
February 26th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Wake up Europe! The enemy is inside your house. Be proud of your culture! Be proud of your heritage! Stop appeasing the aggressive, intolerant monsters that live amongst you and seek your death and the destruction of your nations. America is your ally! America is your friend! America has been fighting and dying to preserve and protect western civilization from these monsters. Don’t let them die in vain! Join the fight! Protect that which is right!
February 26th, 2009 at 3:20 am
As sad as I am to say it, Britain is not the only one with problems. America seems to be losing its own fight to keep freedom alive, especially with Obama being President, I won’t even say that he’s a Muslim, that’s not the case. With the group C.A.I.R. (pronounced “care”), Muslim is silently invading our country, and with the likely passing of the Fairness Doctrine, conservative talk radio is likely to die, leaving all of our hopes with the internet. Help us, join our fight. Don’t let it all die in the name of “fairness”
February 26th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Illiterate and ignorant muslims will never understand PEACE, I give you my paece and Jesus often said to his deciples peace be with you in Arabic means Asalama-o-alakum which they copied from Gospel or Anjeel.Name their faith Islam means peace, but name is just nothing person remains the same good,lier,thief,foolor honest.Since the begining of Islam this faith has never been a religion of peace if any one know this please answer me.Kill others in the name of allah or killing their own fellow muslims in name of allah again, is making this world hell why do not they save it for their future.They are talking of freedom of speech Do they have freedom of speech in any muslim country or in there society? not at all.
Where then?
If the muslims are thrown out of western world there NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM COUNTRY WHO WILL BE READY TO TAKE THEM.
It is for your own good please be peace makers not peace breakers…God is alive is is watching He knows what happening in the world.He is blessing more and more to his religion look around and see around and decide…..EVERY HUMAN BEING CAN UNDERSTAND THIS EXCEPT MUSLIMS ( FIVE YEARS OLD NON MUSLIM CAN UNDERSTAND THIS) ..GOD LOVES EVERYONE ..
February 26th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Islam is the latest kn
February 26th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Fuck being PC cant we just nuke all muslim countrys?
It would stop almost every war and maybe things would go back to normal.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:15 am
God bless you Geert. I will pray for you and for us all. Thank you for speaking up and pray we have the courage to do what is right.
February 27th, 2009 at 7:18 am
I don’t understand what all the fuss is about regarding this film..? It quotes the Koran directly, quotes followers of the Koran directly and shows the reality of what the followers of the Koran have done and propose to do. It’s simply fact, fact and fact. How any rational and objective individual could be offended by this I don’t know..?
The world is full of stupid and delusional people who yearn for something bigger than them to envelope them and direct the course of their lives. Rational, objective reasoning is too much for these people. What is the solution to this sad reality?
There is no way ethical way I can think of dealing with the Islamic problem, so nothing is likely to happen. The only groups who are likely to actually take some real action (far-right political groups) are almost as bad (and certainly as fascist) as these delusional religious people are.
No rational person wants fascism; political or religious, so what is to be done? Just try to enjoy what freedom we have left while it lasts. If one group of fascists doesn’t destroy our diminishing freedoms, another one will I guess.
We rational thinkers can at least take solace in the knowledge that there is no God, of any kind, so we can enjoy ourselves as hedonistically as we like while we live, knowing that no divine punishment awaits us.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:17 am
hi everyone, i have seen the film and read the comments, you people are saying muslims hate the whole world, read what yopu yourselves have written. you have shown hatred for other humans. its the anger that is speaking from inside of you. if you really want to know about islam, then read the whole quraan, first page to last, every word of it understanding its reason forr being in the book, thats when you will understand islam. the verses reported in the film are not about killing the entire world who is not muslim. you have to know the truth to believe something. you are not scholars. ask educated people who are muslims, who follow thw western culture the meanings of those verses and they will say they dont know. you ask muslims who follow their own religion, and they will not know the meanings to the verses. so how can a non muslim interpret the quraan. it doesnt make sence. the bible has been made easy to understand for the normal people. but the quraan hasnt been touched by anyone. it hasnt been changed. you go to muslims scholars to ask the meanings and reasons for the verses and they will tell you the answer. people kill in the name of allah and call them selves muslims but are just fools. they arent. they have no right to kill another human. i am a muslim living in uk. many muslims are proud of being british. so how can you say we hate everyone.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:19 am
in the bible it says: love thy neighbour. can anyone please explain this to me?
February 27th, 2009 at 11:33 am
WHILE ALLOWING MUSLIM MULALLAHS TO COME PREACH HATE POISON THE BRAINS OF YOUNG AND OLD MUSLIMS NOT ALLOWING GEERT WILDERS IS ……..NOT FAIR.HE IS NOT STAYING HERE FOR EVER LIKE MULLAHS THEY ARE GETTING MONEY ALSO FOR PREACHING HATE RELIGION…. THE BOOK IS THERE, WHICH PROVES THAT.THIS IS MUSLIM BELIEF ” ANY ONE WHO READS KORAN WILL BECOME MUSLIM AFTER THAT YOU YOU CANNOT BE CONVERTED BACK.THERE TRIED IN PAKISTAN WHERE CHRISTIANS OR NON MUSLIMS WERE FORCED TO STUDY KORAN OR ISLAMIAT AS COMPULSORY SUBJECT EVEN FOR YOUR SCHOOL CERTIFICATE BUT NOBODY WAS CONVERTED ,EVEN HERE THEY ARE TRYING IN UK preaching their religion by organising course called “UNDERSTANDING ISLAM” BY BIRMINGHAM BASED AUTHOR AND LECTURER BUT NOTHING HAPPENED…………..THIS MY QUESTION TO THOSE MUSLIMS AS EQUAL THING CAN YOU DARE LET SOME ONE TEACH THESE MUSLIMS IN UK HAVE SAME COURSE “UNDERSTANDING CHRISTIANITY” CAN ANY MUSLIM GIVE ME A ANSWER TO MY THIS QUESTION… YOU CAN’T BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY WILL KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRIST.1: HE IS BORN OF VIRGIN MARY
2:HE RAISED DEAD AND CURED ALL KIND OF DISEASES 3: HE ORDERED SEA AND WIND STORMS TO STOP 4:HE FORGIAVE SINS ……(JEWS ASKED HIM WHO IS HE WHO FORGIVES SINS THEN HE SAID WHICH ONE IS EASIER FORGIVE SINS OR SAY TO A SICK MAN GET WELL AND CARRY YOUR STRETCHER AND GO) 4:HE WAS RAISED ALIVE AND WILL COME BACK FOR JUDGEMENT OF LIVING AND DEAD. 5: There is power in the name of JESUS EVEN TODAY THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE CURED FROM CANCER AND OTHER DISEASES WHICH SCIENCE CANNOT DO.Heaven is not easy you have to look for it search for it need to check your direction.Do not let illiterate people lead you check yourself..If BLIND WIL LEAD BLIND THEY BOTH WILL FALL IN WELL ..IF YOU ARE DOCTOR ,PROFESSOR OR HIGHLY EDUCATED MAN THINK AND DECIDE YOURSELF..I KNOW ONE MULLAH( WHO NEVER BEEN TO SCHOOL) CAN TELL A CHIEF JUSICE OR CHIEF OF ARMY STOP YOU SINNER YOU DON’T KNOW YOU DON NOT PRAY 5 TIMES A DAY HE CANNOT BECAUSE OF HIS JOB AND RESPONSIBILITIES…PLEASE THINK HARD …..IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOUR OWN GOOD….MAY GOD MERCIFULL SAVE EVERY HUMAN BEING FROM HELL OF FIRE….AMIN
February 27th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
To Zakki-225
Love your neighbour as you love yourself.Jesus said this is the greatest commandment.If you are christian you have to love everybody regardless of his race or colour or faith.If anywhere is the western world they say deporting of asylum seekers or others the chritian people are the first come in to ask to stop it.Jeus said I was hungry I was thirsty.naked ,homeless , sick and you did not give me a drink.They asked LORD when did you come to us.Jesus said to them all those people came to you THAT WAS ME.So that is why every christian has to do that .They should………..
2;Jesus commanded christians do not acuse any one or judge any one ( because it GOD’S job).
If someone is sinner I am not God they have not sinned against me .Why should man kill a man by giving Fatwa (Islam).
Because we are all sinners there is not a single one sinless. who is capable of giving FATWA.In India star tv obtained so many FATWAS by bribing to mullahs against muslim actors including SHAH RUKH KHAN AND SULEMAN KHAN. Man should not be allowed to issue a fatwa against another human being. Don’t you agree with me muslims ? It is not right….Please do not do this……In Swat valley in Pakistan you will see rich people will bribe to get poor peoples wives daughters or property by getting FATWAS against them If you are educated don’t you think so……..THANK YOU
February 27th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
my dear brother, there you are again, talking about mullahs who preach hate, pakistani compulsary education. they are extrim in their approch to religion. i am from zambia, africa, studied in an islamic school, the first lesson was islamic studies, for muslims, and for non muslims, they had art classes. you are talking about extrimist people. every muslim is not extrime.
in the quraan we have been ordered to respect, love, look after our parents even if they are not muslim. then how can that same book say about killing non muslims. we have a whole chapter about jesus in the quraan. it is very detailed as well. and we also belive he will be sent back to earth.
i am not blind my friend.
the best i can do to let you know we are peacful people as well.
have a look at this site and let me know what you think:
http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2008/differences-between-the-muslim-and-christian-concepts-of-divine-love/
regards
February 27th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
let me tell you the rules of giving a fatwah:
According to the usul al-fiqh (principles of jurisprudence), the fatwa must meet the following conditions in order to be valid:
1. The fatwa is in line with relevant legal proofs, deduced from Qur’anic verses and ahadith; provided the hadith was not later abrogated by Muhammad.
2. It is issued by a person (or a board) having due knowledge and sincerity of heart;
3.It is free from individual opportunism, and not depending on political servitude;
4.It is adequate with the needs of the contemporary world.
so the mullahs who give fatwahs after being bribed are not fatwahs. the ignorant man will believe thats a fatwah, but in reality its not a fatwah. that is just stupid. what you are talking about is people tryin to harm other people in the name of allah.
they are wrong in doing so and will be punished for their miss deeds.
punishment is verily gods right. no man can put themselves on that level. if they do, then they have verily cimmited acts of foolishness.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
and please check this out to clear all your doubts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAerxKYipU
its the truth.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I have studied Islam for most of my life, almost 27 years, and I can tell you that Islam as a bigger threat to the world than NAZI’s ever were. This video is very VERY watered down, and the fact that the british governement issued a ban on it, and the muslims have threatened it’s creator, is a indication of just how big of a threat Islam is. I have seen ever piece of this video in other videos, and in more graphic detail.
If Winston Churchill were alive today, he would spit on every member of parlament, and perhaps the queen herself, for not getting more involved.
If this was the early 1940’s our current politicians in the U.K. and in the U.S. would be welcoming in the NAZI’s with open arms, and telling us not to critize them or anger them and would be changing laws to allow them to go about their ways. The Nazis existed mostly in Germany, and they folliowed Hitler, because he was a good talker, and people believed in him, and look how much damage the NAZI’s did. Muslims, are all over the world. Nearly 1/5 of the worlds population is muslim, and they are not following the words of a leader. They believe they are following the words of a god.
Only in Islam can you be accused of being a moderate, for not wanting to kill someone. Not all muslims are terrorist, but 99$ of the worlds terrorist are muslims.
For any given faith there is a percentage of that faith that would like to see a terrorist like attack take place. Of those people, there is a percentage that would publically support a terrorist like action. Of those people, there is a percentage of people who would carry out such an attack. If you add up all the faiths of Christianity, Jewdism, Hinduism, Budism and Athiesm, those numbers total up less than 2 percent of the population. Under islam on the other hand, those same numbers come up between 40 and 60 percent of the Islam population at least would like to see such an act take place.
Islam is not compatible with Western or Eastern ways of life. It does NOT integrate into society, it replaces it. The muslim population loves our freedoms, but some 40 to 60 percent of those muslims, if given the power, would chose to take those fredoms away from you and me.
It is clear the U.S. government no longer serves the people, and it is VERY clear that the U.K. governemts do not. Therefor, it is the responsibility of every patriot, to take action against those who do not serve the interest of the people. Make those actions peaceful, but take action.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
I don’t see what the big deal is about this film??? Geert is not making any statements at all in it… only showing to the world the ideology of muslim extreemists if there is any hatred being promoted its the muslims themselves doing it… hoipefully the world will treat this more like Churchill and not Chamberlain…. just a thought
February 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
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Yes, the BIG deal is that the Netherlands and the UK are afraid to police rioters. The Koran shouldn’t be banned. Mein Kampf isn’t a ‘Holy Book’, but it shouldn’t be banned either, but you should be able to criticize it and the idiots who agree with it.
As many sane people know, Geert Wilders is NO racist. He is simply against out-of-control immigration; and against immigrants who won’t assimilate; and the ones who beat Gays and rape non-Muslim women for not being covered up. He is also very much against the ones who kill their own daughters and sisters for their ‘family honor’.
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
don’t criticize religions
just use Christian words
substitute for Islam’s words
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here’s an absurd thought -
your Supreme God knew
Christ as a pedophile
and a raping terrorist
converting slaves by the sword
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe wants
Christianity to rule
on ALL the planets
in ALL the universes
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http://haltterrorism.com/
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February 28th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
You may be right every muslim is not a terrorist but I do not agree.I have lived most of my life among muslims and I know Koran and know the society very well.Let me remind you of London suicide bombers their white neighbours said in their interviews that they were VERY NICE GOOD people then what went wrong instantly they decided to take such action with their own lives and lives of others.If he is muslim he can change any time and they have done in past again and again but their book says so,some of the verses of Koran are shown in Wilders film Fitna.There is no true democracy in any muslim country.In Pakistan we watch them debating why we are failing while our neighbour country India is doing alright . your Islamic system is not practicable in modern world with christian system widely working in the world including in pakistan not in Swat Valley where kill by fatwa and cut hands etc is being intrduce.while majority of their own muslims do not want mullahs to take control of their lives.They want to live FREELY like western world where they can choose HELL OR HEAVEN FOR THEMSELVES.In gospel or Anjeel He says DO NOT ACUSE ANY ONE WHO ACUSES WILL BE ACUSED AND ANYONE WHO JUDGES WILL BE JUDGED BY ME. IN INDIA SONIA GHANDI IS CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN,PRIME MINISTER IS SIKH AND SO MANY TIME PRESIDENT OF INDIA HAVE MUSLIM.How many non muslims have involed in the political system of Pakistan except nationalizing their hospitals schools colleges and ymca s etc.How many churches have been burnt, properties of chritian people snached,Girls have been raped and killed. When all these acts happen every muslim knows is it is wrong and is against Islam but not a SINGLE Pakistani muslim came forward in public and NO DO NOT DO IT IS WRONG.You think God is sleeping he does not any thing what we are doing.He is ALIVE AND WATCHING
and knows your deeds and is punishing you every day is becoming worse than yesterday.If Illiterate people cannot understand because God do not want them understand but educated can if they use their brains WHY THIS IS HAPPENING TO US.If you employ a christian as a manager in your factory or company because he is Honest why not in other debates and discussions ask them what do they.Chrisians are native pakistanis, they have not come from India as Mahajirs or migrants.Unless you involve them you will fail every time or even you will loose everything.GOD’S WAYS YOU KNOW ARE AMAZING …….. YOU KNOW ABRAHAM’S SCRIFICE OF HIS SON BUT CAN’T UNDERSTAND THE GOD’S SACRIFICE……..
MAY GOD ALMIGHTY SAVE EVERY MUSLIM BLESS THEM…AMEEN.
March 1st, 2009 at 2:06 am
Everyone keeps talking about how most of muslims are normal, working citizens and fail to see the point and the large picture.
It’s like nazis werent isnt bad because the german people who supported them were normal hard working people. The video is not trying to bring down muslim people but the actions of our governments that allow dangerous, intolerant, hateful and barbaric ideology to get a foothold in our society. We are tolerating intolerance. In fact we are giving it special treatment. (Banning of the dutch politician, censorship, etc.) We are being manipulated into totalirity against the interests of the majority by militant islamists and politicians are too dumb to see it.
It’s fucking disgusting…
March 1st, 2009 at 5:33 am
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No matter how many beheadings, stonings, or terrorist attacks there are, we must never fear, resist or mock the precious and ever peaceful Islam. Who are we to say that raping 9 year-olds is immoral? Who are we to say that stoning gays and rape victims to death is evil?
Who are we to say that killing hundreds of people every month in the name of Allah is the height of evil? That is just their culture and ideology and it MUST be respected. Morality is all relative, we must remember that.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
cut off your wife’s head
if she dishonors you
by asking for a divorce
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe wants
all planets Islamic
Earth is one of many
in process of conversion
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe wants
many Taliban planets
stonings and beheadings
billions served daily
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absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
convert the infidels
or make them pay a tax
if they don’t want to die
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All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
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March 1st, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I found the movie interesting. Most muslims are good people in my experience. But the radical ideology preached by the Imams who have free-reign in Europe is gaining ground far faster than we would ever have imagined. Muslims have immigrated and reproducing at a faster rate than Europeans. France’s prison population is estimated to be nearly 90% muslim (the government censors such statistics) and now over 60% of crimes in Paris are committed by kids from the suburban housing projects (mostly Muslim). I was violently assaulted by one of them in November here in Paris. The police were hopeless.
I agree - most terrorism today occurs from Islamists. Immigration of these people in Europe is a total failure. Many muslim countries and leaders want to bring us back to the middle ages - subjugate women, kill gays, suppress freedom of and from religion, impose sharia law. Islam is not compatible with Western ideals of democracy and freedom. Period. This is my conclusion after living amongst them, being a victim of a very violent attack and daily insults. I reject this way of thinking and life. They are not open - even in a “moderate” Muslim country like Morocco where I lived for 2 years. Immigration just has NOT worked in France. It is a disaster.
I consider myself to be a liberal democrat in the US (proudly supported and voted for Obama) and am also a French citizen (more centrist - UMP). It is easy to be “gauche-caviar”, but we have seen increased radicalization, hooding and forced exicision of women, honor killings and attacks against Jewish and gay minorities here in France. The police cannot control it. It is a failed policy and the radicals are gaining ground.
I thought the film was good. Doesn’t present solutions, but does expose the problem.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 am
This film was interesting, while I sat here and watched it, I checked the verse that are quoted. While some are saying that they are taken out of context, they are partly right. Most of them however are not complete but edited to meet the needs of the author of this work. I am going to post the verse in the text that Herr Wilders uses followed by the text in the Qur’an. I will not offer any of my own commentary, I just ask you to read both texts with open minds. I know there are some out there who have already closed their minds to the subject no matter what is put before them. In some cases the quoted text from the film requires that the whole text is used, some times more than one verse. Forgive me for my typographical errors as I am a survivor of a CVA and at this time confined to bed.
{From film Surah 8,v60: “Prepare for them what ever force and cavalry ye are able of gathering {to strike terror} to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies, of Allah (God) and your enemies.”
From Qur’an Surah 8, v59-60: “And let them not think - those who are bent on denying the truth - that they shall escape God: behold, they can never frustrate his purpose.[59] Hence, Make ready against them whatever force and war mounts you are able to muster, so that you might deter thereby the enemies of God, who are your enemies as well, and others besides them of whom you may be unaware, but of whom God is aware; and whatever you may expend in God’s cause shall be repaid to you in full, and you shall not be wronged.[60]”}
{Surah 4,v56: “Those who have disbelieved our signs, we shall roast them in fire, when ever their skins are cooked to a turn, we shall substitute new skins for them that they may feel the punishment: verily Allah is sublime and wise.”
Surah 4,v55-56: “And nothing could be as burning as the fire of hell:[55] for, verily, those who are bent on denying the truth of Our messages We shall, in time, cause to endure fire: and every time their skins are burnt off, We shall replace them with new skins, so that they may taste suffering in full. Verily, God is almighty, wise.[56]”}
{Surah 47,v4: “Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks and when ye have caused a bloodbath among them bind a bond firmly on them.”
Surah 47,v4-6: “ Now when you meet in war those who are bent on denying the truth, smite their necks until you overcome them fully, and then tighten their bonds; but thereafter set them free, either by an act of grace or against ransom, so that the burden war may be lifted: thus shall it be.
“And know that had God so willed, He could indeed punish them Himself; but He wills you to struggle so as to test you all by means of one another.
“And as for those who are slain in God’s cause, never will He let their deeds go to waste:[4] He will guide them in the hereafter as well, and will set their hearts at rest,[5] and will admit them to the paradise which He has promised them.[6]”}
{Surah 4,v89: “They but wish that ye should reject faith as they do, and thus be on the same footing as they, so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and kill them wherever ye find them and take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”
Surah 4,v88-90: “How, then, could you be of two minds about hypocrites, seeing that God, Himself has disowned them because of their guilt? Do you, perchance, seek to guide those whom god has let go astray - when for him whom God lets go astray thou canst never find any way?[88] They would love to see you deny the truth even as they have denied it, so that you should be like them. Do not, therefore, take them as allies until they forsake the domain of evil for the sake of God; and if the revert to open enmity, seize them and slay them wherever you may find them.
“And do not take any of them for ally or giver of succour, [89] unless it be such of them as have ties to people to whom you yourselves are bound by a covenant, or such as come unto you because their hearts shrink from the thought of making war either on you or on their own folk - although God had willed to make them stronger than you, they would certainly have made war on you. Thus, if they let you be, and do not make war on you, and offer you peace, God does not allow you to harm them.[90]”} There is still more to this discussion on war and the deniers of truth. This actually goes from v83 to v91.
{Surah 8,v39: “Fight them until there is no dissension and the religion is entirely Allah’s.”
Surah 8,v36-40: “And those who until their death have denied the truth shall be gathered unto hell, [36] so that God might separate the bad from the good, and join the bad with one another, and link them all together within His condemation, and then place them in hell. They, they are the lost! [37
“Tell those who are bent on denying the truth that if they desist, all that is past shall be forgiven them; but if they revert to their wrongdoing, let them remember what happened to the like of them in times gone by. [38] And fight against them until there is no more oppression and all worship is devoted to God alone. And if they desist - behold, God sees all that they do; [39] and if they turn away from righteousness, know that God is your Lord Supreme: and how excellent this Lord Supreme, and how excellent this Giver of Succour! [40]“} This discussion covers from v1 to v49.
Here is one of my favorites verses. Surah2,v62-63: “VERILY, those who have attained to the faith in this divine writ, as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Christians, and the Sabians - all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds - shall have their reward with their Sustainer; and no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve. [62] AND LO! We accept your solemn pledge, raising Mount Sinai high above you, and saying ‘Hold fast with all your strength unto what We have vouchsafed you, and bear in mind all that is therein, so that you might remain conscious of God!’ “[63]
It is unfortunate that in some copies of the Qur’an this has been edited done to remove references to the Jews, Christians and the Sabians. Also references to the Book (Torah(sp?)), Injeel (Gospel) and the Talmud(sp?) has been also removed.
Peace be with you all and may your favorite Deity watch over you and keep you safe.
The Desert Fox,
LPN(ret), HM2(FMF)/USN, Sgt/USAR, ACM/olc, VNeVet, GWVet, VFW/DAV Life Member
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:55 am
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Maybe this Geert Wilders affair will help wakeup enough authorities to not go down the same road.
The Leftists and the so-called caring ‘Liberals’ are the racists. Yes! I said it! Not all of them personally of course. But as an ideology, yes! It is RACIST and BIGOTED. I will repeat: Leftist Ideology is Racist and Bigoted! By not leveling legitimate criticism against people or a person of a certain ‘Race’ because of their ‘Race’, is condescending and racist to the core. The Left is evil! All socialism leads to totalitarianism eventually.
We must tell everyone we know about the Geert Wilders fiasco in the Netherlands perpetrated by the RACIST and Bigoted Dhimmi Court. Everyone must see what madness this is.
This is THE FREE SPEECH FIGHT of our lives, not just his.
If a Western so-called ‘Democracy’ can put a Member of Parliament and Leader of a growing Political Party on trial for simply speaking, then literally anybody ‘Right of Center’ can be prosecuted too.
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
pretend to defend
human rights while stopping
speech defending human rights
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
there is no good or evil
every thing’s relative
don’t judge a terrorist
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March 2nd, 2009 at 6:24 am
its kinda of ironic that during ww2 hitler chose to exterminate the people that could have won him the war. Instead what he should have done was exterminate the fuckin muslims of this earth.
during ww2 hitler made the mistake of trusting the muslims and lost the war.
My point being that we trust muslims now and we will lose the war too.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
why you always say that something is removed or deleted from Bible.Do have any (old) Bible any where in the world in the museum etc which can prove that.Listen and listen good open your eyes and ears TORAH (TORATE) AND GOSPEL(ANJEEL) IS HISTORY THESE BOOKS ARE BEFORE KORAN.WHO CAN CHANGE HISTORY,CAN YOU CHANGE YOUR PAST THESE OLD BOOKS ARE STILL KEPT IN ROME & ATHENS IN THEIR ORIGINAL FORMS ARE STILL PRESENT.ISN’T IT STUPID TO SAY LIKE SAYING MY FATHER HAS BEEN CHANGEDTHAT A BOOK CAME AFTER SIX HUDERED YEARS SAYS THOSE HAVE BEEN ALTERED OR DELETED BEACUSE ILLITERATE MULLAH HAS TOLD ME THAT WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE IS A GREAT SIN EVEN IN ISLAM ACCEPTS ALL THESE BOOKS .TORAH AND GOSPEL ARE BOOKS OF GOD .TORAH IS FOR JEWS AND TORAH AND GOSPEL (ANJEEL) IN THE FORM OF BIBLE IS FOR CHRISTIANS . DO NOT SAY” NON BELIEVERS” BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN GOD BEFORE YOU. BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN MUHAMMAD.THEY BELIVE HE NOT A PROPHET THERE IS NO EVIDENCE IN ANY PREVIOUS BOOKS MUHAMMAD SAID ARE GOD’S BOOKS AND LATER IN KORAN HE SPOKE AGAIST THESE BOOKS AND AGAIST CHRISTIAN AND JEWS .IN OLDEN BOOKS TORATE THERE HUNDEREDS OF PROPHECIES FOR JESUS 1.RAISED DEAD 2.CURED ALL DISEASES IMPOSSIBLE BY SCIENCE 3.FORGAVE SINS OF SINNERS WHILE THEY WERE GOING TO THROW STONES ON A YOUNG WOMAN FOUND OF COMMITING ADULTERY .JESUS SAID TO THOSE PEOPLE ORDER FATWAH LIKE MUSLIMS First stone will throw who has never sinned? and they all walked away.
4.He said I HAVE TO GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU I WILL DIE ON CROSS AND WILL RISE AGAIN AFTER 3 DAYS LIKE JONAH IN FISH ‘S BELLY .5. HE WAS RAISED ALIVE TO HEAVEN.6.WILL COME BACK TO JUDGE DEAD AND ALIVE THESE ARE THE FACTS ABOUT JESUS CHRIST.HE SAYS FATHER AND ME ARE ONE.MULLAHS CANNOT TELL YOU THESE THING YOU WILL HAVE TO read yourself and read Anjeel your self see the truth yourself.
IN CHRISTIANITY WE BELIEVE THAT HE IS GOD (you should also believe after these 6 reasons i gave HE IS GOD who will come for judgement of all .If you know GOD INFORM OF JESUS CHRIST WHO SPOKE TO US IN ANJEEL WHY SHOULD WHOUD YOU LISTEN TO A MESSANGER OF ALLAH, Allah who told muhammad to marry his adopted son’s WIFE ZAINAB WHILE HE ALREADY HAD SO MANY WIVES.MUHAMMAD SAID I AM ALLAH’S MESSANGER HE DID NOT SAY IAM GOD.THEN YOU HAVE TO BE MY WITNESS THAT I WAS YOUR PROPHET.WHY WITNESS ALLAH DOES NOT KNOW HIS MESSANGER IF HE SENT.There are many many thing in koran to note but…who has to decide? In the name of Jesus there IS POWER EVEN TODAY CANCER AND MANY DISEASES ARE CURED…….HE HAS AUTHORTY AND IS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Just remember it’s not only New Labour that is responsible for all this mess in Britain, The EU is even more responsible as this is happening in all EU member countries.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 pm
shame on my country
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
How do muslim think they will rule the world and whole world will be i control of muslims.You cannot have a muslim leader for international forum or plateform who can be your spokesman or who can be representative muslims.Muslim cannot agree ( I mean Unity) to muslim.They will kill eachother or nonmuslim…kill ,fight disagree fatwah make world hell.I know muslims more than anybody else I lived among them most of my life.If any muslim disagree with me write to me I can prove it on randomly checking and prove it in them.DON’T YOU SEE GOD IS PUNISHING THEM ON EVERYWHERE.Dont you see your Islam is failing you while all other nations of the world those do not have islam are better than you and God is blessing them EVEN IN INDIA,WHERE HEAD OF BIGGEST CONRESS PARTY IS SONIA GANDHI PRIME MINISTER IS MANMOHAN SINGH THEY ARE NOT HINDUS.You should learn lessons with your experience of centuries why is God not blessing us.You cannot rule in ONE country(PAKISTAN), although Mahatma Gandhi warned Jinnah do do this you be the 1st PRIME MINISTER OF UNITED INDIA ,where muslims the minorty is being treated in better way than in pakistan muslims by muslims they are happier .Is not it the ISLAM FAILING .For centuries all aid or asylum goes ot muslims beacuse they cannot look after muslims.CAN SOMEBODY ANSWER ME AND TRY TO CONVINCE ME ? PROVE IT YES WE CAN.DO NOT LISTEN TO ILLITERATE MULLAHS AND READ GOSPEL(ANJEEL) TRY TO LOOK FOR TRUTH YOURSELF……….THAT WHY JESUS CHRIST “IF BLIND WILL LEAD BLIND THEY BOTH WILL FALL IN WELL” MAY GOD ALMIGHTY SAVE ALL MUSLIMS……….AMEEN
March 4th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
So he put together a few videos and edited them nothing special, alot of people do that on youtube to
Disappointed
March 5th, 2009 at 4:47 am
I suppose it’s just about possible that there’s a god, but if there is you can only conclude that it’s an idiot.
March 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
The King of the South is rising. The kingdom id led by IRAN. They are MAD. They want the 12 Imam to arrive and they will do whatever it takes to make that happen. They will keep pushing until Germany and the Catholic Church put a stop to this craziness…..
The US has lost control of the situation and it is now up to the Holy Roman Empire to take control of the situation and put the war-loving culture to shame.
This will precipitate WWIII…. and Russia will have something to say about German domination.
March 6th, 2009 at 3:48 am
So . it looks like the BNP will become the most viable option to those of us who can plainly see the writing on the wall .
If you dont like whats going on ,USE YOUR VOTE. its the only weapon you have .
March 6th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
i have seen the fitna movie and strongly agree with it these muslims make me sick they talk of there god wat the hell do they no about god they are killing inocent ppl and still being allowed into my country why wont the goverment stand up and do something i was born and raised in this country just like my parents before me i have worked for years and for wat so a bunch of stupid prats can try change us if you dont like it then go home and leave this country to the ppl have been here for generations get these muslims out of here it christanity is the largest religion in the world and has been for 1000s of years these idiot muslims have been a religon for wat a few hundred years if that and they think they have the right to threaten us nonbelivers dont make me laugh wat ever happend to FREE SPEACH this country is falling apart it bout time yhe goverment grew a pair and sorted it out
March 6th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I am sick of these Idiots saying he has not done anything just collected these videos,they are sick in head cannot understand Geert has not acted in the film he is ONLY SHOWING THAT IS BEING DONE BY YOUR PEOPLE AND SURAT AND VERSES ARE FROM YOUR BOOK KORAN AND EVEN IN YOUR OWN FAVOURITE LANGUAGE ARABIC. IF IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN ARABIC THEN THEY WOULD HAVE SAID NO IT HAS BEEN TRANSLATED WRONG THAT IS NOT WE MEANT.LIKE THEY ALWAYS SAY WE ARE PEACEFUL RELIGION WE SAY ASALAMA ALAYKUM ( GOOD MORNING,GOOD EVENINGE ETC AS IT STAYS SAME ALL THE TIME WHICH MEANS PEACE BE WITH YOU WHICH COPIED FROM GOSPEL JESUS USE TO SAY TO HIS DECIPLES).ISLAM MEANS PEACE BUT AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE NAME MEANS NOTHING IT IS THE ACTS OR DEEDS ARE IMPOTANT.SAY SOMEBODY HAS NAME “MR. HONEST” BUT HE STEALS ALL THE TIME. HE IS CALLED THIEF” OR ASY SOME ONE IS CALLED MR.INNOCENT” BUT HE COMMITS MURDERS ALL THE TIME IS CALLED MURDERER WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE DO NOT SAY NO HE IS INNOCENT BECAUSE HIS NAME IS INNOCENT.ACTS ARE IMMORTANT NOT THE NAME OR GOOD MAN OR BAD MAN…..NAMING A RELIGION PEACE OR ISLAM MEANS NOTHING IF IT IS NOT PEACEFUL.CHRISTIANS HAVE MANY CHARITES BUT WE DO KNOW BUT WE DO NOT DO IT.
I WILL TRY TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE “IF I SAY I WILL TAKE YOUR HOUSE AND ALL HOUSES ” AND “WILL KILL EVERYONE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS’ IS IT WAR OR PEACE ?
YOU CAN JUDGE YOURESLF IF YOU ASK ANY NON- MUSLIM HE WILL SAY IT FIGHT OR WAR BUT IF YOU ASK MUSLIM HE WILL SAY “IT MEANS PEACE”
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS TO MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND.THEY HAVE PROBLEM WITH CHRISTIANS THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND GOD CAN AT THREE PLACES FATHER AND SON AND HIS SPIRIT AS A HOLY SPIRITIN THE WORLD OK FINE BUT WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THEY BELEIVE IN ONE GOD.WHY THEY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH JEWS.
IT IS CLEAR THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.THAT IS WHY THEY WANT TO GET NUCLEAR BOMBS TO FINISH THE WORLD.THIS STORY FITS HERE.THERE WERE THREE FRIENDS,THEY FOUND A TREASURE ,THEY SEND ONE FRIEND TO BUY SOME FOOD.TWO DECIDE TO KILL HIM WHEN HE COMES BACK WITH FOOD AND THEY HAVE TREASURE HAVE HALF HALF OR 50,50.ONE WHO WENT TO BUY FOOD PUTS POISON IN THE FOOD SO HE CAN HAVE FULL TREASURE AND AT THE END THEY WERE ALL KILLED AND TREASURE WAS THERE………..IN GOSPEL JESUS SAYS “FAITH IS LIKE A TREE GOOD TREE BEARS GOOD FRUITS CANNOT BEARS BAD FRUITS AND SIMILARLY BAD TREE BEARS BAD FRUITS CANNOT BEAR GOOD FRUITS” IF YOU HAVE EARS HEAR AND IF YOU HAVE EYES SEE CATHOLIC CHURCH FROM ROME ALL OVER THE WORLD FROM EAST TO WEST AND NORTH TO SOUTH.ALL HEAR AND AGREE WITH SHEPHERD ALL NATIONS AND CHURCHES FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.HE COMMANDS AND EVERY ONE OBEYS HIM….
WHO IS YOUR LEADER ? WHICH MULLAH WHICH COUNTRIES,NO MUSLIM COUNTRY AGREES WITH YOU.LIKE AT THE TIME OF BABLON (BURJ AL BABUL IN IRAQ WHEN WANTED TO BUILD A TOWER OR BURJ). GOD ALMIGHTY IS DIVIDING YOU EVERY WHERE IN PALESTINE HAMAS AND PLO,SHIA AND SUNNY,AHMADIS NOBODY WANTS IS MUSLIM COUNTRIES EXCEPT CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.IN PAKISTAN THEY DO NOT WANT SHARIA THEY WILL KILL EACH OTHER.IN SWAT VALLEY THEY SAY THIS BECAUSE THEY UNEDUCATED PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE LAW WILL COME INTO THE HANDS OF MULLAS.
MULLAHS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING HERE IN CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES CANNOT DO SO IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES.CAN YOU? MAY BE YOU MIGHT DO ON YOUTUBE OR CASSETTE OR PORTABLE TRANSMITTER.
WHOSE WORK IS THIS WHEN KILLERS CALL THEMSELVES PEACE OR ISLAM TO BELEIVERS THEY CALL THEM NON BELEIVERS
DON’T YOU THINK GOD IS NOT WATCHING YOU AND DOESNOT KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ….WITH HIS DEEN ISLAM…
March 7th, 2009 at 3:24 am
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March 8th, 2009 at 12:30 am
muslims you do it for killing,in Afghanistan suicide bombers kill one or two christians and 30,40 muslims,in pakistan mariot hotel they killed few foreigners and more than 50 muslims,to which heaven this will take you to can any muslim explain it me please beleivers of hoors(72 virgins).Disgracing the flags of Uk and USA I saw on TV and in Geert’s film and documentary as well,Isn’t it shamful acts that the country which privided so much you call your self millionaires deserve this behavour.HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN COUNTRY IS CALLED MOTHERLAND does mother deserve any respect in Islam.Respected people give their lives for their motherland.Motherland is a country where you live not where your father lived for example Pakistan, palestine, iraq etc you have left you cannot even go back there.
Look here what is the differece between islam and christianity and that is why GOD ALMIGHTY IS BLESSING THEM MORE.
GOSPEL(ANJEEL): I WAS HUNGRY,THIRSTY,HOMLESS,NAKED (WITHOUT CLOTHES) AND PRISONER ANY WHO DOES THIS IT DOES IT FOR ME.Now christianity charities run to muslim countries like Afghanistan,Iraq,sudan and in Africa,to save those muslims in misery where there is danger of life sickness,kinaping by you muslims,but they still go risk their lives.
ISN’T IT SHAMEFUL THE WAY YOU REWARD THEM.Who says the way is taking you to heaven to rule the world.
Muhammad’s name is not mensioned in any three books he said are holy not even once nowhere.while jesus name many times.there are more than 360 prophecies for Jesus Christ.He said i was before Abraham,,I was before any thing was created,he forgave sins,raise dead,born of virgins you know in koran,etc etc…WHO IS HE ? WHEN WE KNOW GOD AND HIS BOOK WHY WE NEED messanger and his book.You need SEE AND SEARCH AND FIND.HE SAID KNOCK THE DOOR AND IT WILL BE OPENED UP FOR YOU, SEEK AND YOU WILL FIND.IF YOU DO NOT SEEK HOW CAN YOU FIND.If blind( illiterate) will lead blind they both will fall in well.Do know Abraham’s sacrifice(in Koran one is Ishaque second place is Ismail) but you cannot understand GOD’S sacrifice of his son.God became man and born of VIRGIN MARY (as in koran) being a son of adam and without faher (in Koran) born of virgin and SACRIFICED HIS LIFE FOR US(HE SAID WILL DIE AND WILL RISE AFTER 3 DAYS.OH COME ON IT IS NOT VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND.GOD SAVE ALL PLEASE LORD,AMEEN.
March 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Two quotes:
“In the universe Stupidity is more aboundant than hydrogen-and it has a longer shelf life.”–Frank Zappa
“The man in the street cannot recognize the Devil- evan the Devil has him by the throat”–Friedrich Nietzsche
March 8th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
OK-so my typing Fingers are stupid…I can spell “”abundant”.
March 8th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I watched about 5 minutes of this film, and it just shows how the issues portrayed were very biased.
This man reflects the state of our generation, the main problem of this generation is that we are losing intellect, and for someone of his age, and im hoping with some background of Academia, to come out with something like this displays his ignorance and inablitiy to debate in a manner which is dignified.
If he realy had full conviction of what he was saying, why didnt he expose it to the intellectuals of Islam, and try to form a dignified intellectual debate?
Rather than portrating people who can barely speak english, and who clearly are extremisits,I mean, there are many scholars who will outweigh the extreme scholars, nobody is denying people who have been talking in an extreme manner that they are extremists, in any community you get the bad apples, and radicalists and fundamentalists, America is full of fundamenta christians, who are waiting for the ‘Rapture’ and counting down to it.. So..Islam doesnt always have followers who submit to it, in a balanced way.
Are we really this daft to judge Islam on a video as backward as this, or are we going to go to real islamic sources, and find out for ourselves, like real intellectuals?
March 8th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
To John:
Shut your mouth, you dont know what you are talking about….instead of feeding off the media and biased websites, study Islam with an open heart.. Im sure you are not that stupid
March 8th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
the old saying…
“fools shout and wise men whisper”
… sums up my opinion
March 9th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
To Aysha (Wife of Muhammad) and Khanom (wife of Khan)
Thank you very much for you remarks, I am sure i am not stupid but I know you are believing in one thing and not checking the other.this is like being in country saying it is most modern country in the ,you must see may be the second one is more modern,compare and then decided.You have to come out from darkness into the light then oyu can see better.
Debate yes this is a debate can any one of mullahs or muslim answer my questions I have raised,
I have said for many times I know Islam more than you that is why i am showing the difference between Islam and christianity.One is HATE AND ONE LOVE.
Copied verses of BIBLE AND MIXING IT OTHER CONFUSING VERSES =KORAN
Mixing 99 % of pure milk with 1 % of poison makes a killer drink.
Study Islam with an open heart… I have study all which part you are suggesting to me.
Read all my comments and some one to answer it.I know God and my God is present even today (He is always for ever).
By the NAME OF JESUS EVEN TODAY AMAZING THINGS ARE HAPPENING …….CANCER AND ALL KINDS OF DISEASES ARE BEING CURED even today many muslims and religions they are also being cured in CHRISTIANITY if want i can show you can send you muslim brother.I have real flower to smell. you cannot tell me smell my fake flower.RESEARCH IS NOT BAD THING AWARENESS SAVES.
I know Bible and Koran both ,why don’t you study Bible yourself and you will know the TRUTH ABOUT JESUS AND GOD ALMIGHTY,WHO IS FULL OF LOVE.He is God himself want you to learn bible an dlearn truth.This is the biggest religion in the world and there highly qualified Teachers of church.They are not STUPID.
Please do not ignore.I know both ask me any thing about islam.YOU NEED TO KNOW other one so you can choose The BEST FOR YOURSELF.I will suggest LOVE IS BETTER CHOICE THAN HATE WHICH says kill people they are like cows…….
God please save all ONLY YOU ABLE……AMEEN.
March 10th, 2009 at 5:38 am
this makes me mad they are doing it and our politaclly correct arsehole’s are doing nothing i will die before i see this religion ruling the world
March 10th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Mr Wilders,
Just do what u wanna do..
but u will find it useless of doing it.
Islam is sacred religion. Its protected by the only God - Allah -.
May Allah gives HIDAYAH to you too my poor friend.
March 10th, 2009 at 9:40 am
John, Thank you for your time.
I study your religion at University, so Im still sticking to my faith.
Your faith is dying look around.. the other day I saw a shop which had a picture of Jesus and Elvis next to each other, it seeems that Jesus (pbuh) but claimed to be your God has become a fashion item now, and I just thought do these Christians have any respect to show for their religion? And those that do why dont they speak out against it.
You have homosexual preists.. what has happened to your roots?
Look at the statistics, my lecturer said that the Christian faith is trying their best to get numbers in it seems, because you’ve become so modern, and lost your roots.. hey men.. nobody likes sellouts.
I dont debate with fools as I know I will get nowhere, but I’ll debate with intellects, then maybe I’d have a chance.
With you Mr John, I choose not to debate with, stop wasting your time on here.
Peace
March 11th, 2009 at 12:13 am
I am Christian from Iraq, currently living in Canada. I have seen this great movie about Islam and I would like to say that every word has been told in this movie is true 100%. I lived in Iraq for almost 27years and that how Muslims are thinking about Christian, and Jewish. They don’t like us, and actually they hate us. Couple of months ago christen in Iraq have been kicked out of their houses because of their Christianity. I thought that will apply her in Canada as well after couple years from now because of Muslims growth rate is 6-10% that is they will start controlling the parliament and the government and then imposing their ideas to be adopted in the constitution through the democracy and later Canada will have same Iraq scenario. Unfortunately nobody listen to us when we say such things and they consider it as racism, I don’t understand this piece, somebody is threatening me, should I welcome him? Is this democracy? I was been told that this never work with Canadian, and seems to me not only in Canada but in UK, and Europe in general. I understand Christianity become undesirable thing here in Canada, however they forgot that the values in these countries are coming from Christianity. Yes it is Christianity values built these nations. Please work from your place to stop this immigration to west. MUSLUMIS HATE US, we should do something about it.
Please see the double faces of Muslims in these two clips.
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT3JWbjbbpg
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BI9v42UEWI
March 11th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
hei brothers and sis, comparison doesnt make any different….its all through same route, to the same end….the difference is only in the ppl who walk through…if there is one created us, the one who dont wanna showup, the one who want us to believe without any logic, if he want us to obey without thinking, if he fillz our heart with fear morethan love, then what kind of god he would be??…hero god, or villain god??
March 11th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Hello,
Dutch politician Geert Wilders in his movie FITNA, quoted Quran out of its historical context to label it as a book of violence. Any person with a common sense can understand the covetable deceit of Geert Wilders.
FITNA cites 5 Quranic verses out of context and synchronously shows terrorist attacks, which meant at misleading the viewer that terror attacks are obsessed by Quran.
‘FITNA of Contextomy - The Rebuttal of Fitna’, which means the Tribulation (or) corruption of quoting(anything) out of context.
‘FITNA of Contextomy - The Rebuttal of Fitna’ is the precise refutation of Geert’s FITNA.
It has got 3 parts; the first part refutes the accusations regarding Quran, the whole explanation of the first part was given by Muhaddith.org, later it was video edited with an extra clarification about the Arab Child, who was shown calling Jews as Pigs and Apes.
Second part shows biblical incitation of violence and hatred toward non-Jews; it also shows the instilled hatred of Jews and Christians against Muslims.
Third part shows the atrocities against Muslims throughout the Globe; the tortured death of Muslims in the name of establishing peace.
Note: No single video in this film was personally shot; everything was taken from the popular documentaries and videos.
‘They intend to put out the Light of Allâh (i.e. the religion of Islâm, this Qur’ân, and Prophet Muhammad [sal-Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam]) with their mouths. But Allâh will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate (it)’. Quran 61:8
WATCH IT NOW on Youtube.com
Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUiQ3V-IMYI
Part 2.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JentVuOGGU
Part 2.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leXCu8h9sWw
Part 2.3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFtrU-xJiPA
Part 3.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6B1w6rLe3Q
Part 3.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW9H6HhVQk
March 11th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
To Ayesha Khanom,
Thank you for your remarks about my faith christianity.You said you study my faith christianity at University level and you have knowledge fo Bible and Koran as well a) If you are at university but can’t spell properly.
b)You nothing about it that is why you are sticking to it. If you want to know Jesus can you ANSWER MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS and tell me if he is not who is HE ? READ NO;241 , 234 AND ALL OTHER.If you do not answer those questions then I will think you were not tell me Truth about UNIVERSITY.ACCORDING TO KORAN YOU IS SAME TAKEN FROM BIBLE.
Answer those like a) who is HE BORN of Virgin Mary without faher ? b)He he whos raised dead ? c) Who is HE WHO FORGAVE SINS AND SAID I CAN FORGIVE SINS d)HE CURED ALL KIND OF DISEASES EVEN BLINDS BY BIRTH AND ORDERED STORMS TO STOP e)HE WILL COME BACK FOR JUDGEMENT OF LIVING AND DEAD f) He said I am son of God and died for it because said he is blasphemous. If He was a blasphemous why did God raised HIM ALIVE WHY DID NOT GOD LET HIM FALL
My answer to your question of YOU SAW PICTURE OF ELVIS and JESUS side by side is this DID YOU ASK THE SHOP KEEPER if he was CHRISTIAN ? Christianity is minorty here .Every white person is not a christian,If stand in the street ask 100 people,there will be less 8 christians.You there are priests ARE HOMOSEXUAL you may be right but there are MULLAHS also RAPESTS AND KILLERS OF YOU GIRLS WHILE THEY TEACHING THEM KORAN IN ARABIC BUT being christians we do not KILLER SINNERS LIKE GIVING FATWAHS…THIS NOT ANY MANS JOB ANYMORE BUT GOD’S….GOD HAS TO PUNISH ALL SINNER SO WE LEAVE FOR GOD TO DECIDE Homosexuallity is sin in christianity.If ADULTRY IS ALLOWED HERE …it is sin but GOD has to punish ….ON FATWAH PLEASE BECAUSE WE ARE ALL SINNERS SOME ARE HIDDEN AND SOME ARE EXPOSED
SPECIALLY THE POOR THEY GET FATWAHS.CAN YOU GIVE ME ONE EXAMLE OF ANY KING OR RICH WAS KILLED BY FATWAH.
NOW YOU WILL SAY HOW CAN GOD HAVE A SON ,THAT IS SPIRIT GOD COME INTO MARIAM SHE KNEW NO MAN.JESUS SAID GOD THE FATHER AND ME ARE ONE,IF YOU HAVE SEEN YOU HAVE SEEN THE FATHER .I pray to God Almighty amy open your eyes and ears and bless you AMEEN
March 12th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
John: Shut up fool. Im not writing an academic publication here for me to get my spellings right. I told you, I wont get anywhere with you, thats why Im not bothering to even argue back with you. I pray the same for you…BYEEEEEE
March 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
There is no hateful verses in Koran. That verses are about some inevitable defence battles (like Battle of Badr, Uhud and Trench…) and about commands and advices for motivation of soldiers on battlefield. Like… When you face with enemy on battlefield; do not run, besiege, step strong and fight, and like this… That verses are not about normal times like our days, that verses are specific about war conditions.
With all my respect, this is the most stupid movie which I have watched about Islam. The director or scenarist or whatever must be more ignorant than these radical fanatics. Please go and read something about Islam from impartial and true sources before making a movie about Islam.
March 12th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
TO AYESHA( WIFE OF MUHAMMAD) KHANON9WIFE OF KHAN,
THIS IS THE FOOLS OF 21ST CENTURY WALK AWAY,WHEN THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.
WHY LIE THAT I STUDY YOUR RELIGION CHRISTIANITY AT UNIVERSITY BUT IAM STILL STICKING WITH MY FAITH.
THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU BELIEVE A MAN AS PROPHET WHO SAID TO HIS ADOPTED SON ZAID BIN HAREETH “DIVORCE YOUR WIFE ZAINAB BIN HAREETHA ALLAH HAS TOLD ME TO MARRY HER” SO HE MARRIED HER WHILE MUHAMMADALREADY HAD SO MANY WIVES ALREADY AND HE HAD NON.GOD OF JEWS AND CHRISTIANS FORBID THIS BUT ISLAMIC ALLAH ALLOWS IT.
SEE HOW YOUR FANATICS HAVE WELCOMED OUR SOLDIERS WHILE SERVING TO THE GOVERNMENT OF QUEEN.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OATH THEY TOOK AT THE TIME THEY GOT THEIR CITIZENSHIP AND HAVE BRITISH PASSPORTS.
THEY ARE DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY .WHY DON’T THEY GO BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES AND ENJOY THEIR SHARIA LAW IS ALREADY THERE AND ALL OTHER ISLAMIC THING THEY WANT HERE LIKE CHANGE DRESSING IN BURKAS AND OTHER FUNNY DRESSES,CHANGING EUROPEAN CULTURE ETC ETC OYU KNOW VERY WELL WHAT ELSE YOU WANT……….
IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THOSE FANATICS WHILE YOU SAY TO THEM IT IS WRONG AFTER ALL THEY ARE YOUR OWN MUSLIMS THEY WILL LISTEN TO YOU……..MUSLIMS SAY SOMETHING TO FANATICS FOR ALLAH’S SAKE SAY SOME THING……PLEASE.
March 12th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Anything you say sir
March 15th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
This debate can last forever but the only truth remains that we cannot trust muslims, its not written on any muslim face who is a terrorist and who is not. they kill in the name of allah and they say islam is a religion of peace.Many will say its a minority but who are these people. who is behind them(all muslim people are actually).Hypocrytes thats what they are. you cannot trust anyone because you dont know when they can stab you from behind. so people all around the world must more be cautiuos with their surroudings.
March 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
To nameless (264-called himself Be_True_for_Ever),
Before I say anything I want to ask you about TRUTH you do not know him. JESUS CHRIST said himself ” I am the WAY , I am the TRUTH and I am LIFE ( JENAT OR PARADISE OR LIFE FOR EVER) OYU CALL HIM ORDINARY OR SPECIAL PROPHET but he is much more if think yourself do not let mullah thimk for you because you seem to be more educated than mullah.
READ ALL MY COMMENTS AND ANSWER “WHO IS HE ? ” YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE…..
You said Geert Wilders have done nothing but to deceive……It was better if you would have answered the questions he raised as he said ” I am not saying every muslim is not terrorist,what i am saying is that 99 % of terrorism is being done by muslims” What is you answer ? and similarly other questions I raised.
I myself agree with Shay-270 as I have said many times.
I civilized society YOU HAVE TO GIVE REASONS TO BELIEVE and by answering those REASONS……….YOU SAY IN CONVINCING way. In whole debate I have seen a single muslim who has come up and gave his REASONS to BELIEVE.
SIMPLY SAYING CALLING THEM NON BELIEVERS IS NOT ENOUGH………..I HAVE ASKED IF SEE MY COMMENTS.
WHAT IS YOUR DEFINATION OF “BELIEVERS”
IN CHRISTIANITY YOU CAN’T UNDERSTAND GOD THE FATHER,WORD OF GOD BECAME SON IN FLESH( IN KORAN YOU SAY JESUS born of VIRGIN MARY without father in human body) and third HIS HOLY SPIRIT…BUT
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH JEWS THEY BELIEVE IN ONE GOD LIKE YOU THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN MUHAMMAD…….becauses he is not a God.
Can any muslim say something ” BY GIVING REASONS TO BELIEVE ISLAM ”
IF READ ALL MY C YOU WILL SEE JESUS IS GONE TO HEAVEN ALIVE (also say koran) Proving that he is God and will come back for the JUDGEMENT OF LIVING AND DEAD and also said that ” HEAVEN AND EARTH WILL PASS AWAY BUT MY WORD (ALL HE SAID IN GOSPEL(ANJEEL) WILL NEVER PASS AWAY.GOSPEL ALSO SAYS ANYONE WHO DOES NOT BELIVE IN JESUS OR SON OF GOD’S FATWAH HAVE HAVE ALEADY BEEN ORDERED FOR HIM.
Muslims always say these prophets are also our prophets for example Jesus( Issa) ,David (Dawood) , Abraham, etc etc they have 1,86,000 and they are also our prophets BUT WE DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT THESE PROPHETS HAVE SAID….
DAVID .. (BEING VERY RICH KING) SAID TO GOD I CANNOT SACRIFICE FOR MY SINNS YOU HAVE DO THE SACRIFICE (OBLATION) FOR ME , WHEN GOD PROMISED HIM YES I WILL FORGIVE YOU AND I WILL PERFORM OBLATION FOR YOU, THEN HE SAID HEARING OF YOUR SALAVATION I AM BEING FAINTED WITH HAPPINESS AND JOY.
BUT YOU CANNOT FIND THE TRUTH…….GOD CAN SACRIFICE HIS SON JESUS CHRIST……
IF YOU WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN (JENAT).
HEAVEN IS SOMETHING WE CAN JUST IGNORE IT…. CARRY ON DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING KILLINGS etc.
Davil is one who comes to kill he does not know muslims and non muslims .Muslims are killing muslims in Pakistan,Iraq and and other countries,My question is this where are they going to WHICH HEAVEN?
March 15th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
All
Like most propaganda material, The Fitna film has its flaws and benefits. In reality,(Muslims will not want to hear this) THE FILM SHOWS MANY TRUTHS. The first and most important, fundamentalist Islam is a violent, intolerate and ingnorant religion. Its followers are blinded by the “god delusion” and are completely brainwashed. Unfortunately, there is little anyone can do to change the views of these extremists. Yet we as Westerners, must realize that most Muslims do not share the brethrens fanatical views. Like the majority of people in the world, they simply want to live their lives in relative comfort and safety; free from violence AND persecution. To call for the removal of ALL Muslims is more than prejudice, it is morally unacceptable.
In the States we also have fanatical fundamentalist groups. They bomb abortion clinics and assualt homosexuals. They preach intolerance and hope their religion dominates the United States. But, these groups are CHRISTIAN NOT MUSLIM.
SHOULD AMERICA THEN ASK FOR THE REMOVAL OF ALL CHRISTIANS. OF COURSE NOT.
Fanatical religious fundementalism plagues every country and is present in every society. The strength of this film does not rest in its exposure of Islam, but its exposure of religion in general.
WAKE UP WORLD. IF god exsists then he is indifferent to the woes of this world.
WE ARE ON OUR OWN PEOPLE.
I would recommend “Religolous” a film by Bill Maher. It shows that Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhists, Hinduists AND Muslims are the biggiest threat to freedom and the biggest obstacle to the advancement of our species.
Live life free of fear
AJ
March 18th, 2009 at 1:35 am
You CANNOT seperate mainstream Islam from violence…it is a cult of hatred. For those who think radical Islam is just a few extremist around the world..you are all fools. Those so called “moderate” Muslims…just practicing a watered down version of what they think is the “true” Islam. The Quran they read had indeed been retranslated to tone down the absolute horrific hatred and violence…but you know…it’s still there! MARK MY WORDS HERE AND NOW…THIS IS THE ULTIMATE BATTLE OF CULTURES. ISLAM SEEKS TO RULE THE WORLD AND PUT INFIDELS TO DEATH OR COMPLETE DEMITUDE. WE MUST DEFEAT JIHAD AT ALL COSTS!!!
March 18th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Muslims will not prevail by their HATE OF JEHAD AGAIST ALL nations of the world including HINDUS,BUDDHISTS AND OTHERS.THEY SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO KILL EVERY ONE IN THE WORLD IN THE NAME THEIR ALLAH.
If anybody say I will kill you and we know it is offensive I can take him to court.What about these people is there any law for theses HATERS of HUMANITY….WHERE THEY KILL THEIR OWN MUSLIMS AS WELL BY SUECIDE BOMBERS.
ALL KNOW GOD IS LOVE….BY LOVE YOU CAN PREVAIL AND CAN CONQUER the world but not by hate…HATE IS DEVIL….
IF GOD IS LOVE THEN HATE IS DEVIL ……….THEY ARE SLAVES OF DEVIL…. WHO HAS TIED THEM IN CHAINS…..WANT THEM TO KILL OTHERS AND KILL YOURSELVES…… WHEN THEY KILL 4 NON MUSLIMS AND 50 MUSLIMS BY SUICIDE ATTACK……….IT IS VERY ASTONISHING TO ME THAT ALL MUSLIMS WATCH READ AND UNDERSTAND SAY NOTHING TO THOSE KILLER MUSLIMS AND STAY SILENT.
IF ANY SOLDIER WHILE PERFORMING HIS DUTIES KILL ANY MUSLIM BY MISTAKE ,THEY COME OUT ON STREET, IF THEY KILL THEMSELVES THEY DO NOT CARE…..AS THEY HAVE KILLED AN ANIMAL.
LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID ” LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOU LOVE YOUR SELF ” EVERYONE IS YOUR NEIGHBOUR …..CHRISTIAN AND NON CHRISTIAN…..HE IS THE LORD……..WHO CARE FOR EVERY HUMAN BEING…….
THEIR CANNOT BE PEACE IN THE WORLD WITHOUT LOVE AND WITHOUT LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOUR SELF..
I TELL YOU MUSLIMS THINK SINCERELY IF YOU WIN BY JEHAD (HATE) , CAN OU HAVE A LEADER? WHO IS YOUR LEADER?
THAT IS WHY YOU CANNOT HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH MUSLIMS……EVERY MUSLIM COUNTRY THINKS HE IS A LEADER.
CAN ANY MISLIM ANSWER ME PLEASE ……GOD THE CREATOR PLEASE FREE YOUR OWN CREATION FROM THE CAPTIVITY OF DEVIL OF DEATH WHO COMES TO KILL WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME,AMIN.
March 19th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
I have a specific reply for Steve Watkins of course theres more christians in europe commiting crimes, why because there are more christians(for now anyway) I watched the film and its an honest look at the extremist side of islam. I have never heard any stats on crimes by muslims against muslims in the middle east because what we see as crimes arn’t in the middle east and the crimes that would get a slap on the wrist in the west, well in the middle east you get your hand cut off at the wrist. Im not against islam and anyone who is is close minded but theres no reason to bend over backwards for these people. In Canada islamic law is not law and if people want to live by islamic law go to the middle east, and be happy. Unless of course your a woman, gay or anyone other then a extremist muslim. God save the Queen and God Speed to the UK I one day would love to visit as long as free speech and democracy are still in style.
March 20th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
After seeing this video i see that Islam is a threat to us Europeans and why should be respect them when all they do is horrible shit . I mean how could they have commandments or whatever in their bible saying the kill and strike fear into peoples hearts = S are they mad ? these are infectious people that are Brainwashed by there “Koran” or whatever its called. They abuse their woman and children .. and know there Ruining Netherlands… i cant believe that Netherlands isn’t doing something about it .. Europe should be like U.S.A in the terms that when you Step on American Soil you leave your Religion at the door. To many imams in Netherlands is spreading and this awful people are damaging our Europe and they are ruthless and mixing with our people. i don’t care if anybody calls me racist because im not , but Islamic people ARE racist because in there bible they teach everyone to hate Jews .. and seeing from the this movie they admired Adolf Hitler? =S there psychopathic because if Hitler lived any longer what makes them think that He wouldn’t kill them hahaha their pest too . We will take down Muslims just as we took down Hitler. We need to Keep our Freedom we can not just give it away just as our government gives away respect for them for no reason and most importantly we can not lose .
March 21st, 2009 at 7:34 am
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Defending your life and culture is not racist or xenophobic.
FREE Partij voor de Vrijheid! The Koran shouldn’t be banned. Mein Kampf isn’t a ‘Holy Book’, but it shouldn’t be banned either, but you should be able to criticize it and the idiots who agree with it.
As many sane people know, Geert Wilders is NO racist. He is simply against out-of-control immigration; and against immigrants who won’t assimilate; and the ones who beat Gays and rape non-Muslim women for not being covered up. He is also very much against the ones who kill their own daughters and sisters for their ‘family honor’.
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
don’t criticize religions
just use Christian words
substitute for Islam’s words
.
here’s an absurd thought -
your Supreme God knew
Jesus as a pedophile
and a raping terrorist
converting slaves by the sword
.
Muslims are not a ‘race’ anyway, they are followers of a religion/ideology and its Sharia Law. Most Muslims aren’t even Arabs, which by the way, is also not a ‘Race’.
But their duty is, according to their Koran, to spread Sharia law over the whole Earth. It might take 100-200 years, if they succeed.
Is that the kind of world we want for our great-grand childrens’ great-grand children? A Taliban Planet? I bet not. Muslims are the biggest victims of Islam. Wilders is NOT against Muslims, he is against Islamic Fundamentalism.
We all should read the Koran, but be careful, for some strict Islamists prohibit non-Muslims from having or holding one. Also, it is only ‘official’ in Arabic, and some Muslims say Non-Muslims can’t understand it. I wonder why.
This is BIG, this is REAL BIG! SPREAD THE WORD to the world everyone! The EU Mandarins have crossed the line! If this goes to court, how much more of the public will become aware of this tyranny?
All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. If there is no freedom of speech, then there can be no real freedom.
The Christians and Jews don’t riot when somebody makes fun of Christ or Jews. People must learn to be civilized, and held to account when they are not. Muslims included.
Geert Wilders is a hero spreading the painful truth. He MUST be protected!
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here’s an absurd thought -
your Supreme God says
Christians are a race
who love the Jewish race
and the peaceful Buddhist race
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe wants
Sharia Law for ALL
submit to glorious life
slavery and servitude
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
outlaw self-defense
exposing violent crimes
shall be deemed hate speech
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
decide to change your race
just simply change religions
your religion is your race
.
All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
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here’s an absurd thought -
our Supreme Gods like
placing BIG bets on man
on whether humans on Earth
will submit to tyranny…
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March 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Wow. This film is pretty intense. For nothing. LMAO! It’s pretty pathetic. It took random video clips and snippets out of the Qur’an only to prove it’s point. Anyone can do that about anything with anything. Half of those versus are about whenever you’re in a formal war. God is smart enough to know that war will happen among mankind, so the Qur’an (guide to life) tells you what to do in war, if your in it but also tells you to AVOID WAR. The film did fail to mention the many times the Qur’an tells us that KILLING ONE PERSON IS KILLING ALL OF MANKIND! and how it says DON’T DECLARE WAR! Hmm.. but that wouldn’t support this person’s argument, would it? Why didn’t it finish half of those snips from the verses of the Qur’an? Why didn’t the film explain WHY about anything? It wouldn’t support their judgment, that’s why. Sooooooo bias. it’s CRAZY! And you say Muslims aren’t tolerant? Bah, funny.
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Did you know only 18% of America is African American? Seems like a small number, but that’s it. We think there are more because most of the people on TV and entertainment are Black, so it appears to be MUCH MUCH more. YOu would think maybe at least 40% was black, but only 18%. Same with Islamic extremists, it’s all you hear about so you think there are more extremist than ‘moderates’. I don’t like the term MODERATE, because there isn’t any moderates, THOSE ARE JUST MUSLIMS! That’s the majority. Any Muslim hater knows no Muslims for themselves. like 1 person out about 10,000 would be extremist. For you to think there are most radical Muslims than normal ones, is thinking falsely. Do your own REAL research. For once, read a MUSLIM website and REAL MUSLIM WEBSITE and find any trace of violence on there. NOT EXTREMIST MUSLIM WEBSITE! A website that PREACHES REAL Islam, find any trace of preaching violence. Good luck, ‘cuz you won’t find any. http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/ sites like these.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
It is quite unbelievable the uproar that this film has caused. If it is truth (as it is) then it (and it’s maker Mr. Wilders) should be praised, if it is false then point out the errors. The Western World is allowing their culture to be bastardized by this false religion and it’s adherants. It also amazes me that the same left wing lunatics who demand equal rights for homosexuals are also constantly defending Muslims who just so happen to hate homosexuals. The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
March 24th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Islam was a great religion.. yeah it WAS, but now it’s poisoned by hatred and arrogance of some idiot people who think they are like Hitler, Napoleon, and they THINK they can change the world by creating ONE religion, One God, One Law, One currency, One desire, One dreamm… yeah keep dreamin…
in this world with multi culture in its nature can not tolerate such things i just mentioned. Prolly the arrogance leaders that wants to rule the world like nazi FORGET about the HISTORY… read the history man…
The world had already passed its dark times through world war 1 & 2 , and now u bunch of idiot arrogance ppl want to try it again??? hahaa LMAO learn from mistakes will ya? even Hitler cant make it why would u..? because…and only because…ALLAH’s will is to make the world beautiful in its differences… nothin else.
one more thing to keep in mind, if ALLAH created ISLAM to RULE the world, why did HE created PIG?? why did HE create so many types of butterfly?? so many types of fruits? trees? animals?? why He didn’t just create ONE type of animal, ONE type of tree, of stone, so there is no GOLD, no OIL, no SILVER, no GLASS, no WOOD… WHYYYY??
cos ALLAH loves the world, He created the World, why would He destroy it?? think bout it…
” He who wants to RULE the world, wants to RULE the HEAVEN ”
” You can not CHANGE the world, but you can LOVE the world ” (New World Order)
March 27th, 2009 at 4:15 am
The vast majority of comments on this site are shameful.
The video was interesting, but was pure scaremongering on Mr. Wilders part.
As for the idiots calling for the BNP - you honestly think they’re any better than the crazed muslim extremists featured in Fitna?
Every religion has it’s crack-pots.
It’s not the muslim people who are the problem, it’s uneducated, small-minded, hate filled people of any religion. You all know who you are!
March 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Well, Arkan Tigrovi was right, he said this would happen and it did. It does not justifiy what tigrovi did though
March 28th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Simply sent them all back to the desert where they came from. We really don’t need them here in Europe or in the free world. By the way - we don’t need any religion taking influence into politics ! Here I fully agree to the several videos of Pat Condell. Mr. Wilders - please go on! You are definitely not wrong!!
March 28th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE. TELLING PEOPLE ALL THIS CRAP , THIS IS GODS WORLD NOT THE HUMAN WORLD , YOU SHALL PAY FOR THEIS MY FREND WEN WE WILL ALL FACE OUR CREATOR AND BE JUDEGED . YOU MY FRIEND WILL TO THE PITS OFF HELL WHO HAVE FOLLOWED SAINTAN WITH HIS DICVING POWERS. U TRY TO PUT DOWN ISLAM , BUT OUR PROPHET IS MENTIOND IN THE TORAH - SONG OF SOLOMON , WICH CHRISTANS AND JEWS FOLOW . THE JEWS ANGERD ALLAH , AND THE CHRISTANS WENT ASTRAY WITH THE CHNAGES IN THEIR HOLY BIBLE. ABRAHAM WAS A MUSLIM , HE BUILT THE KAHABA , AND NAMED HIS FOLLOWERS MUSLIMS . ISLAM HAS ALLWAYS BEEN THERE . PROPHETS HAVE COME WITH ONE MESSAGE . 1 GOD. YOUR RELIOGONS , THE POLYHTIESTS AND THE JEWS AND CHRISTANS IS WRONG. JESUS IS NOT GOD . I AHVE SO MUCH PROOF Y HE ISNT , EMAIL ME AT AMINE_Dabest@hotmail.com if u want to no more . our religion is flawless, the perfect reliogon. Our quran is the latest flawless version of gods word. if we are the devil religon , wen a possed person hears the koran it herts it him so much it forces himself out , if it was the devils relegion it would feel no harm but joyment of lies ! . you have been misguded . the hour will come when a mountain of gold will be discover under the mountain of euprhates wich can bee seen using google earth . wot a coincincde we alredy new tha 1400 years ago . USE UR HEDS PEOPEL .
March 29th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
TO AMINE,
IF YOU REALLY GOOD DEFENDER OF ISLAM CAN YOU READ ALL MY COMENTS ABOVE THEN SAY SOMETHING.
AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND YOU DON NOT KNOW KORAN AND YOU DO NOT KNOW BIBLE.WHEN YOU DO NOT BOTH HOW CAN YOU SAY WHAT IS WRONG AND RIGHT.
YOU ARE LOOSING YOUR OWN SOUL IF YOU STAYING IGNORANT LIKE THIS TRY TO LOOK FOR TRUTH AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND BY REASONS.
DO NOT SAY JESUS IS NOT GOD AND CHRISTIANS AND JEWS ARE WRONG BECAUSE KORAN SAYS JESUS WILL COME FOR JUDGEMENT AND HE FORGAVE SINS RAISED DEAD AND CURED ALL KINDS OF DEASES EVEN FROM BIRTH.
YOU MUSLIMS HOW CAN YOU GO TO HEAVEN WITHOUT SOMEBODY DIE AND SAVE YOU BY HIS SACRIFICE.
YOU HAVE NOT READ BOOK OF JESUS AND ALSO DO NOT DO WHAT HE SAID ,LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR,FORGIVE EACH OTHER, CLOTHE NAKED,VISIT SICK AND PRISONER ETC
YOU KILL IN NAME OF ALLAH ,OR BY FATWAH KILL ALL NON MUSLIMS ETC……..DID REALLY ALLAH TOLD YOU.
GOD PLEASE SAVE ALL MUSLIMS AND EVERY HUMAN BEING ON THIS EARTH,AMEEN
April 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
Let Freedom Ring! Thanks Geert
April 1st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
This film gets to the point and had me close to tears. Every second is true. Islam is a cancer and needs to be stopped from destroying our societies. We need to act now while the balance of power is in our favor. We need to get control of our political correctness and stop providing concessions to Muslims.
Immigration and asylum needs to be stopped 100% when coming from non-Western countries. We need to break up and outlaw Islamic ghettos. Muslim faith schools need to be outlawed. Sharia law needs to be explicitly outlawed and carry prison sentences for those who practice it. Those who protest in the name of Allah when our soldiers parade the streets should be imprisoned or deported for treason.
We need to support any and all technology that prevents our dependency on oil. Nuclear and Coal power need to be supported. Electric cars need to be demanded. If we do not depend on middle eastern oil we can cut ourselves off from the region — excepting Israel who we should support more both economically and in terms of military. Our only concerns then can be preventing Iran from gaining Nuclear weapons.
As for this film, I agree with the poster who said it should be displayed nationally. More than that though, there needs to be a movement to tell the truth by means of popular culture.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:59 am
I am a Muslim who converted to Islam over 12 years ago. My ancestors are from England and they immigrated to Canada. Although there is a lot of truth in the film about the renegade Muslims known as the khawarij in the Islamic texts, what is left out is the voice of those of us who are combating the ignorance in our community. We are here, but you won’t see us on the television or radio. Ask yourself why that is? We are not so called “moderate” or “liberal” muslims, but we recognize that ignorance, culture and emotion have replaced knowledge in the Muslim world. The problem with the west is that due to lack of study, non-Muslims often don’t separate ethnic culture from the religion of Islam. I have never read or been taught to mutilate female genitals, perform honor killings, kill non-Muslims whenever able to, force Shariah laws or verdicts in a non-Muslim nation. I do believe Islam is the truth and only accepted way, however we are taught to propagate and invite with gentleness and wanting good for others. Jihad is reserved only for self defense and many of the verses quoted are really taken out of context, at least read the verses before and after the quote if you really desire the truth. For those who don’t believe me about us speaking out, please visit: http://www.islamagainstextremism.com
BTW - To those who believe stopping immigration will help resolve the problem, what about those increasing numbers of converts like myself? When I attend Islamic gatherings in N. America immigrants are a minority and converts are the majority.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
[...] Fitna the Movie Fitna the Movie __________________ LIBERALS…….OPPRESSORS OF WOMEN, CHILDREN, MINORITIES, WORKING FAMILIES AND THE POOR [...]
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
[...] It’s worth raising today after the £2,500 hand-out to sinister Jordanian Abu Qatada and the imminent arrival of Ethiopian terror suspect Binyam Mohamed. Wilders’ film links horrific acts of terror with verses from the Koran recorded in taped rants by terrorists before their slaughter of the innocents. I haven’t seen the film because it has been blocked on the internet.”Fitna” see here [...]
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
[...] It’s worth raising today after the £2,500 hand-out to sinister Jordanian Abu Qatada and the imminent arrival of Ethiopian terror suspect Binyam Mohamed. Wilders’ film links horrific acts of terror with verses from the Koran recorded in taped rants by terrorists before their slaughter of the innocents. I haven’t seen the film because it has been blocked on the internet.”Fitna” see here [...]
April 5th, 2009 at 5:22 am
For all you westerners (including you Europeans who currantly occupy Palestine) whining about the evil Muslims and Arabs….how about this for starters? First, all westerners pack your bags and leave the Arab world. Just go back to where your parents and grandparents and great grandparents and great great grandparents and great great great grandparents etc. came from. LEAVE. Second, order your governments to take their military home. Third, after you are ALL out and where you belong, military in tow, THEN and ONLY then are you justified to bitch moan and groan about evil Muslims blah blah blah. Just order them home too. Then and only then will you have some justification for all your bitching and whining.
April 5th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
all muslims must be killed for the greater good of the world!!!!
April 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Great Movie … Absoluetly bang on target. Civilized world has to come together to defeat cancer that Islam is. As an Indian, we have been experiencing Islamic cruelty for past nearly 1000 years or so, latest being 26/11. Hope world leaders realize danger that Islam posses to our world and take action to bring it to an end.
April 6th, 2009 at 3:47 am
No.294, Michael is an uneducated and uncivilized person to come up with the statement “all muslims etc.etc.”
Civilized people throughout history have chosen different ways
to solve problems such as hardline rightwing so-called
Christianity in the United States during the past 8 years.
A new young generation of Americans took care of this problem!
April 6th, 2009 at 7:46 am
“Muslims are like wild dogs, you can’t deal with wild dogs only kill them.” Arkan
April 10th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Everyone, I am a Muslim, and you must remember that radical Islam is not Islam read this article: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_ID=10&article_ID=100424&categ_id=5, and no offense, but Geert Wilders took the verses in the Quran without looking at the context. These verses came in a time of war, and war in Islam is allowed when the other side acts violently (it would be silly for Islam to denounce war if it was being attacked). For a MP in Holland, I would have really expected Mr.Wilders to be more intellectual in his criticisms. Islam, during Europe’s “dark ages” advanced the world scientifically and technologically. At a time where the Church prosecuted thinkers like Galileo, people like Avicenna were doing humanity, and not only Islam, a favor.
April 11th, 2009 at 2:25 am
To all muslims - Stop lying saying islam is all for peace. The reality shows all people of the world that it is not the truth. Look at what the talibans are doing in the name of Allah. If you want us to believe real Islam is about peace then join the war against the talibans! And let us see your efforts to stop all stonings in Iran, Afganistan etc!
To the owner of this site - please contact me.
April 11th, 2009 at 8:35 am
IF I were living in a FREE country, I would say what I really think about the situation in Occupied Europe. Unfortunately, I’m just a lowly subject, existing here in socialist, Politically Correct, Norway. (I have to always censor my thoughts.) But,..
Someone should give Geert Wilders a medal for bravery…
The Medal of Truth.
Today’s crop of leftist quisling-politicians are making our proud ancestors turn in their graves.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
TO MUSLIMS,
IF YOU SAY GEERT AND WE ALL NON MUSLIMS DO NOT UNDERSTAND CONTEXT OF YOUR KORANIC VERSES,FINE THEN CAN YOU ANSWER TO HIM WHEN HE SAYS 99% TERRORISM IS BEING CARRIED OUT BY MUSLIMS AND MUSLIMS WHO LIVING PEACEFULLY AND WERE SAID TO BE GOOD BY NEIGHBOURS…WHICH SNAKE HAD BITTEN THEM NEXT DAY THEY LEAVE THEIR YOUNG FAMILIES KILLED THEMSELVES AND MANY CITIZENS…….? ? ? ( ANSWER PLEASE ANY MUSLIM…)
ANOTHER THING CAN YOU COME OUT WHEN YOUR NEIGHBOUR COMITS SUICIDE AND KILL GO TO HIS FAMILY AND CONDOMN THEM IN PUBLIC AND SAY WE ARE NOT WITH YOU AND DO NOT THIS……..I KNOW YOU CANNOT DO THIS BECAUSE IT IS AGAINST YOUR ISLAM…… BECAUSE IT DOES SAY IN KORAN ABOUT TERRORISM….YOU CANNOT DENY YOUR RELIGION AMONG MUSLIMS……. YOU CAN ONLY DENY WHEN THERE NO MUSLIMS, BUT YOU CAN DO IT WHEN THERE ARE NON MUSLIMS….LYING…AND MISLEADING THEM.
I SAID MANY TIMES NOBODY KNOWS ISLAM MORE THAN ME.
LET US PRAY TO GOD…LORD PLEASE SHOW YOUR SELF TO THESE PEOPLE …..YOU ARE PEACE…YOU ARE LOVE…AND YOU ARE THE WAY. PLEASE SHOW YOU LIGHT TO MUSLIMS ALSO …..EVERY ONE IS YOUR CREATION.THEY ARE IN DARKNESS AND CANNOT SEE YOU …THEY ARE SEARCHING YOU IN HATE AND KILLINGS……SHOW YOUR SELF LIVING GOD….WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME..AMEN.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Assalamu Alik-kom ( peace be upon you all )
i would post this video, which is the answer to Fitna Movie by Geert Wilders,
part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG3aDK3NfKs&feature=channel_page
part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKuwN1aIByA&feature=channel_page
aslo see this
http://www.muslimvideo.com/tv/watch/90d2bad5ddef4f70e8ba/RE:-Fitna—Schism-(The-Bible-version-of-Fitna)—MUST-SEEN
and this
http://www.muslimvideo.com/tv/watch/da5ae9d3a425109ce9e0/Who-is-Mohammad-(P.B.U.H)-?-Answer-to-Fitnah-Movie–and-Danish-Cartoon
and peace be upon you all, and maybe we can someday understand each other and love each other Jews, Christians, Muslims, and any other religion.
Assalamu Alik-kom ( peace be upon you all )
April 16th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I don’t understand why little Europe is the new breeding ground for muslims in recent years, yet they not only take our land, government, and culture for granted, but the resent it and reject it…and are taking it over!
The middle east and africa are large enough continents are their laws and costums are in line with their people, so why don they leave us alone? They cant find jobs here, dont speak the language, dont know our religion, eat our food, or try to fit it (generally….Most Arab countries arent at war or desolate places…stay there!
I don’t understand this fear of setting a quota for immigrants of any kind, or saying “NO”, or imposing our culture, when cities like Mecca right out FORBID non-muslims from entering!? A western women wouldn’t walk down the streets of Jeddah in a miniskirt and tank top or lay on the public beach in a bikini now would they? yet its taboo even think that a woman might have to renounce her Burka.
I have muslim friends, and of course they are not all terrible, however there is a serious culture shock and integration problem which Europeans and Muslims alike need to step up to.
May I also say….has anyone ever visited a Dutch jail? 99 percent of the detainees seem to be first or second generation Arabs. Just to point out!
April 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am
One more thing there seems be alot of talking about whether Islam is good or bad, or of peace or war….surely most or the terror today is by religious extremists (most Muslim, but not only)….however I don’t think thats the underlying problem here!!!!!
People need to let go of their obsessive home culture and fit in if they come to another country! All religions dictate some degree of hate, and I doubt we’ll ever get rid of terrorists, but the main issue here and now is that Rotterdam (second largest city in Holland)’s majority population is Muslim, and its mayor is a first-generation Morrocan!!!!!!! The streets are lined with Kebab stores, mosques on every corner, headscarfed girl-only schoolbuses, and now the government!! Well, there goes Paris and London, and any other city.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:43 am
geert wilders showed in this movie all the bad thing that islam did, so there where never an yew? ore christian? ore what ever,.. that sayd something like that, i’m a muslim to and muslims aren’t like that! at least, the muslims i know, the other so called (muslims) in this movie are just dumb and stupid! never heard of that? fucking asshole is geert wilders dude
April 16th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
The problem with you muslims is that you do not know your religion Islam or any other religion.Geert had shown the videos or cassettes recitation from your quran by your mullahs and solid in millions copies.
Listen to this statement PAKISTANI MUSLIMS are devided in in two groups one those want islam and those who do not want islam.They do not want to live by your SHARIAT LAW no muslim country really want it not even saudi arabia if they are given free right to choose. Islamic law is not practical in modern world and modern law of JESUS CHRIST….e g Forgive and you will be forgiven,love each other as I have loved you,do not acuse so that you are not acused( because you are all sinners) one who judges will be judged by me one who forgives will be forgiven by me. you have not read these kind of teaching in koran,have you? THERE CANNOT BE PEACE IN THE UNTIL ALL MAN KIND WILL WILL BELIEVE IN GOSPEL(MEANS GOOD NEWS).
JESUS WAS CARRYING HEAVY CROSS THEY WERE BEATING HIM VERY BADLY THE WOMEN OF JERUSALEM FELT SO BAD AND STARTED CRYING ..DAUGHTERS OF JERUSALEM DO NOT CRY ON ME CRY AT YOURSELF AND AT CHILDERN..THAT WHY THEY ARE CRYING EVEN TODAY….UNTIL IT IS DESERTED….AND WHERE EVER THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST WHO WENT UP TO HEAVEN IN FRONT OF THERE EYES…..IS GOD WHO WILL COME BACK FOR JUDGEMENT DAY…IF YOU READ THE GOSPEL YOU KNOW WHO HE IS…..HE SAID SEEK AND FIND KNOCK AND WILL BE OPENED FOR YOU..Believe in him and do what he says and no one will call you terrorist…….HE IS LOVE ….AND HE LOVES YOU FIND HIM HE INVISABLE……LET US PRAY TO HIM…LORD JESUS CHRIST YOU GAVE YOUR LIFE TO SAVE EVERYONE PLEASE SAVE ALL MUSLIM…YOU ARE LISTENIG AND YOU ARE ABLE..AMEEN
April 16th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
im support christian people,,
but i dont hate muslim,,,
i just hate terrorist and indonesian people,,
April 17th, 2009 at 1:26 am
John i’m not going to convert to christiantiy, i respect ur religion and believe that jesus a prophet and messenger from allah (god), but i’m muslim and i’m proud and insha’allah i will die muslim, coz i have certainty that islam is a religion allah ordered us to follow it and muhammed a prophet and messenger from allah, and holly quran is a book from allah, and quran teached us that killing innocent people is forbidden and who ever did that is going to hell, and i can give u any proofs u want, and in islam ( shariaa and quran ) who suicided is going to hell, and please if u want to know anything about islam ask a muslim, if u want to know something about christianity i will not go to as a muslim, only christians will tell me the truth because they know their religion well, Mr. geert wilders distort the quran and hide something things to show it as he wants, and if u want any proof about what am saying talk to me at my email: hotitem2003@yahoo.com.
peace be upon u all
salam
April 17th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
The messenger Muhammad (saw) said: “Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children.When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhaajiroun (migrants) and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhaajiroun. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muslims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fay’ except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers).If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizyah (tax). If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them…” (Saheeh Muslim #1731)
April 17th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
“If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizyah (tax). If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.” The Jizyah is a small charge or tax which every non-Muslim must pay to the Khaleefah (leader of the Muslims). In return, the non-Muslim will be under a covenant, thus making it prohibited for any Muslim to violate his sanctity. This order from the Messenger Muhammad (saw) is very clear; if they refuse to embrace Islam, demand from them the Jizyah i.e. implement the Sharee’ah over them. If they refuse both of these options, to embrace Islam or live by it as a system of governance, “seek Allah’s help and fight them.”
April 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Siraj…I always get stupid answers from you people……see my statements (all of them) and geert’s film and answer properly.
Am I unterested in Jizah(tax) mohammad said pay kahaleefa etc etc.
He said why 99 % terrorism is carried out by muslims ? full stop …….
I am asking you muslims you say and believe it Mohammad is a prophet CAN ANY MUSLIM GIVE ME REASONS AND ANY PROPHECIES ABOUT HIM WHICH PROVES that he is a prophet.
For JESUS CHRIST , there were prophecies thousands of years before HIS birth for example HE WILL BE BORN OF A VIRGIN SAME IN KORAN, HIS NAME WILL THIS HE WILL DIE ON CROSS, HE WILL PAY THE PRICE FOR SINNERS (ANY MAN WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE THIS CANNOT BE SAVED WITHOUT HIM WE ARE NOT HOLY PEOPLE QUALIFY FOR JEENAT) ETC ETC.
IS THERE ANY THING ABOUT IN ANY PROPHET’S (KORAN SAYS THERE HAD BEEN 124′000 PROPHETS IN PAST ,DID ANYONE MENSIONED MOHAMMAD”S NAME AS A PROPHET AND A LAST PROPHET EXCEPT HIMSELF SAYING IT AND HE DIED OF FEVER (TEMPERATURE) WHILE MOST OF THE PROPHETS ARE KILLED BY NON BELIEVERS.
HAVE ANY BODY EVER CURED ANY DISEASE BY MOHAMMAD’S NAME…………….EVEN TODAY MANY PEOPLE ARE CURED BY JESUS NAME THERE IS POWER… GOD IS ALIVE EVEN TODAY…..SHOWS HIMSELF IN MOTHER TEREASA OR IN POPE JOHN PAUL-2 AND MANY MANY MORE……SAINTS AND HOLY PEOPLE IN JESUS NAME…..AS YOU SAID I AM NOT CONVERTING TO CHRISTIANITY I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO DO SO……BUT BE PREPARED TO ANSWER JESUS WHO IS COMING FOR THE JUDGEMENT (ALSO KORAN ) BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT READ HIS BOOK GOSPEL OR ANJEEL…..HE IS THE JUDGE AND JUDGE ACCORDING TO HIS TEACHINGS…..FORGIVE AND YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN…LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF….GIVE LOAN TO ONE WHO CANNOT RETURN…..INVITE TO A PARTY WHO CANNOT INVTE YOU ….DO NOT RESIST EVIL…….IF SOME ONE SLAPS YOUR ONE CHEEK TURN OTHER AS WELL…IT IS VERY DIFFERENT …IS NOT IT YOU HAVE SEE YOUR SELF…TRY TO FIND THE TRUTH….IT WILL SET YOU FREE AND EVERYBODY WILL LOVE YOU NOBODY WILL CALL YOU TERRORIST….MULLAHS WILL NOT TEACH THIS…..JESUS CHRIST SAID FOR THEM….IF BLIND WILL LEAD A BLIND BOTH WILL FALL IN THE WELL….GOD LOVES YOU FIND HIM……IT IS NOT EASY TO GO TO JENATOR HEAVEN.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:47 am
well as for the point of proofing Mohammed is a prophet:
did u study Islam or search to know? do u know in the Quran many science facts were told hundreds of years before scientist discovered them? and yes his name was mentions and they knew and told before his time that he shall come and be the last of prophets
u know this movie reminded me of a movie for john Travolta when he killed the security guy at the Museum he works in by mistake ,if u recall this movie the media had 2 teams:
1st team gave the whole picture, the true picture about this man n about his kind heart and his troubles and niegbours and life
the 2nd team took only the bits and peaces that together would tell the wrong picture and paint an ugly thought about him
this is the whole thing
every verse mentioned in this movie had a whole story behind it and reason whey exactly it was told
and every Muslim man talking there in this movie was telling a whole story where he had to say those words
also is the Quran is so powerful to put 54,000,000 European under his spell then why now be all the universe be?
also don’t tell me all those 54,000,000 all stupid or dumb or didn’t fully think their decision a million times before deciding to be Muslims
and that’s why in Islam the one who leaves Islam is to die for before he joined this religion he fully learned about it and was sure of his decision
some of those 54.000.000 are scientist and great minds
just do some search and study on both sides before judging and hating us for we never hated anyone otherwise u would’ve never felt welcomed at our regions and countries
and dont search only sources of non-Islamic reviews , see both and seek the truth, if u care to be sure of your believe
April 19th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
this mans a fuckin idiot…islam means PEACE your just showing all the bad points of islam and twisting them and none of the good ones we aint all like that.
April 19th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
:D…
Who would say that killing 1 billion of people shall be better for the good of the world, except a rabid criminal fascist??!
People who want to say something about Islam, must first really study it, in scientific way… That’s the civilized way to discuss it.
Everyone here must know that, in Islam, even the real “rabid criminal fascist” is welcome to be a good Muslim. This religion is the only one that accepts the two others to be part of society (and this is effectively written in Quran). The proof is that most of Jewish historical books were published in Muslim countries and during the most shining periods of Islamic history (while it was prohibited during all the rest of medieval history). I give you the exemple of Moses Maimonides, “One of the greatest Torah scholars of all time” as wiki says.
I saw the movie, and I’m really surprised how genius was the director to completely twist the image of Islam, and the meaning of Quran verses. Montage did it greatly all.
I learned about Judaism, Islam and also Christianity, the three religions talk about loving One God, and this is the fact that must unify us the most. Now I’m totally sure that you, people that have ever tried to learn about real Islam, are losing an important opportunity to know how good is being a real Muslim, and how Islam provides answers where all other religions failed before.
Peace and Allah blessings be upon you all…
NB: Mullah is a nomination of a tribe chief in Urdu. It has absolutely nothing to do with Islam.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:05 am
If Islam is a religion of peace, how come you muslims get all violent and angry when someone talks about your religion? How come your countries lack human rights? How come you abbandon your shitty lands and infest the West? Answer.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I agreed we have to try to get rid of the extremistes who gives all the moslims a very bad name. they insult the islam and have no respect for allah or for any god,besides there’s only 1 god for all of us (jew christian, muslim etc etc)
I think everybody should read koran and after that you can give a judgement about the islam and not on base of this movie.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:31 am
wont you get very upset if any of Muslims talked bad about your religion!???? since when was human rights about dissing someone of sth with no right? or even science to back him up
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
Muslims are totally Idiots. Islam is Satanic. Allah is Evil Lucifer angel. Mohammed is Anti-Christ False Prophet. Jesus warned about Coming Anti-Christ False Prophet ie; Mohammed. Mohammed ordered to kill all Christians & Jews ( God Chosen People ). All the answers are in the Bible. The Third World War or Final Battle Armageddon is the Battle between GOD chosen People( Christians + Jews ) VS Satanic Islamic Muslims Forces ( Evil Forces ). Within 1400 Years , over 270 Millions Non-Islam People have been murdered by Islamic Jihads. Muslims destroyed Buddhist Holy Place, Hindu Holy Place, Christians Holy Site and Jewish Holy Site. Muslims Destroyed all religions Holy Sites and Build F*ucking Mosques on that Sites. One Muslim boy married 4 Girls ( Including Native Girls) and made 20 Muslims Children. 1:20 Reproductive Rate. With this Animals Reproductive Rate, Muslims will become Majority within 100 years. Although Muslims Destroyed Others-Religious-Holy Sites. Muslims do not allow non-islam people to Mecca or Medina. And no Church, no Hindu Temples are allowed to build in Muslims Holy Site. F*uck All Muslims …Ban Mosque. Nuke to Mecca & Medina….Europe are Idiots…They Forgot about Crusade Wars…They Forgot about Constantinople & Hagia Sofia Church….They Forgot Islamization…Turkey (Byzantine) is Originally Christian Country…after Islamization…now what Turkey is 99% Islam Nation……For Idiots European….Just keep one Facts, Muslims will try every Methods to Kill God Chosen Children ( Jews + Christians) ..and to Dominate the World……All Religious Groups Such as Hindus + Jews + Christians + Buddhist + Chinese + Idians should be united and combat the Common Enemy of Humanity ie; Islam….. If Muslims have Nuclear Power…They will F*uck Europe as soon as Possible….but When Idiots Europeans have Nuclear Power…they Kind of they Step-Fater-Muslims. Muslims Killed 270 Millions non-Islam People…and Destroyed Every Religion….But For Europe , they waste their Power in vain, Useless…where are the Super-Power-Fighters-German in Muslims Case ? where are the Shining-Sun-Emperior of English In Muslims Jihad Case ? whrere are the Communist-Nuclear-Power-Russians in Muslims Jihad Case ? they all behave like Polite Muslims’pet-dogs. As For me, very Simple…there is no Dog but Allah ,Mohammed is Psycho-Rapist( Mohammed had over 40 Fu*cking Slaves and Mohammed Raped 8years old child Aisha, In the Name of Allah) … for more details. please watch Muslims Beheading Videos http://www.truthtube.tv/search.php?keyword=beheading&type=videos and tell me you are happy to watch. For Hindu Opinions http://www.hinduunity.com for Christians Opinion http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm for Jews Opinion http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html for Ex-Muslims Opinion http://www.faithfreedom.org , Just learn the History and Jump out from Peaceful Islam Dreams
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Allah is Satan Lucifer Angel,Mohammed is Anti-Christ False Prophet. Jesus warned about coming Anti-Christ False Prophet Mohammed. Mohammed ordered to kill YHVH God Chosen People ( Christians + Jews ) because Ant-Christ False Prophet Mohammed hated too much about YHVH God’s Chosen People ( Christians + Jews). Within 1400 years, over 270 Millions Non-Islam people have been murdered by Islamic Jihads.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:15 am
European Christians, Don’t forget about Crusade Warriors who died in the Protecting of Christianity against Islamic Muslims Invaders. European Christians , Do not Forget about Constantinopale, Hagia Sofia Church.Before Muslim Invasion , Turkey ( Byzantine ) was Christian Nation for Over 1000 years . After Muslim Invasion of Turkey in 1453, Christians Population of Constantinopale have been Anihilated by Muslims Invaders. After Islamisation of Turkey by Muslims Invaders, now what ? Turkey is 99% Muslims Country. Don’t forget about that. Now Europe is facing the Islamization by Islamic Reproducation Rate (1 boy + 4girl= 20 Muslims children=1:20) .Now Bosnia & Kosovo are almost Islamized . Nowadays, Europeans become dull and Opaque. European waste their power in Vain . In the History, European Powerful Counries ( France, Germany, England, Russia) conquered like Warlord. They seriously Fought each other for Money, Land,etc . But in case of Protecting European Christianity and European Culture ……where is Super-Power-Giant-Germans ? Where is Sun-Rising-Emperior-English ? Where is Nuclear-Weapon-Fighter-Russia ? Where is Napoleon-Emperior-Francais .They killed each other like as Monsters but When they Face the real Dangerous Islam, they become dull and their Spirit becomes Cowards. They kiss Muslims as s like as they kiss their Fathers. Shameful for their Ancestor Crusade Warriors who gave up their lives for Protection of Christianity from Muslims Invaders. Within 1400 years, over 270 millions non-Islam people have been murdered by Islamic Jihads. Holy Place of Judaism, Holy site of Christianity, Holy place of Buddhism, Holy site of Hinduism were destroyed by Islamic Jihads. But as for Muslims Holy City Mecca, not one Non-Muslims is allow to enter. And no Church, No Buddhist Temple, No Hindu Temple is allow to Build. EuropeanChristians, Don’t forget you all are the Last defender of Christianity. If Europe became Muslims Majority Islam Land. Christianity will be wipe out of Earth.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Why in earth he translate that in that kind of form , islam is peace no terror and islam people never force someone to convert to islam..
Allah is the only one who we should admire..
I saw few days ago that the israelis killed so many people and they justiced themself ” there where terrorist but they killed children what to say about that?”
God is the one who created us and of course he wants that we pray to him…that is simple
think of that if u create a robot you all of course want that this robot will hear you what ever you say or u destroy it ….
that’s the same I just explained that God is the only one And he created us all …and u should pray just to him only him not like christians Jesus he is human that God created …He pray to Allah (God) why u don’t do it when your man Jesus do it …
This movie is shit of course …
Islam is the best religion….with islam of course if you learn it right …it is all peace and u see others like your brothers and you help others …..
April 25th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
History has shown us how Religion has been used countless of times to justify conquest, it’s a standard Be killed or Convert.
To disallow defamation of religion is by no means in the best interest of individuals but serves only to assert their legislative powers over individuals who question the dubious preachings in the 4 walls.
Under what law governs what these “holy men” preach? Does intolerance of the intolerant make us the monsters?
April 25th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Is this all? A bunch of old news, and this makes people upset? Just as silly as the row over the cartoons, if you ask me.
If this piese of old news upset you, either one way or another, you should seriously concider getting a job!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Look Geert Wilders is an racist, he uses the freedom of speach to dishonour moslim because he is simly HATING THEM. We all live in a world with different religions we should all accept that and let the people chose there religion. And this guy has put the baddest of the baddest moslims on a film of 15 minutes so everybody who see’s it is now scared of muslim peolple etc. Look im a moslim an those things if have seen are way beyond for me, cause this happens rearly and in places where the education etc isn’t good. We should al concentrate and give our time to people who really need it. Like in irak, palestina or afrika. Places where there is war and where people starve. It has no sense to discuss this because the moslims wil like the christians and the jews grow. That doesnt mean the terror wile grow, because islam has nothing to do with terror. Islam is al about hormony. You should all go o the library and read the full verse, you will then understand that what you see in this movie is just a bunch of crap and misplaced. And you wil see, the koran is a gift from god. He gave us a book, to give us a heaven on earth. Because if every person on this planets obey’s this book, than there wil be no more crime, no drugs, no wars etc etc etc. Its al about hormony people dont let you mislead by this film. This man wilders is just a little flame that wil go out soon. Greetings from Holland, Gökhan
April 26th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
NUMBER-323-GOKHAN…….If that is your name GO KHAN,WHY DON’T YOU GO SOME WHERE, WHERE YOU CAN STUDY AND LEARN GOSPEL (ANJEEL) OF JESUS CHRIST AND KORAN OF MOHAMMAD AS WELL.
MOST THE MUSLIMS LIKE YOU DO NOT KNOW THE KORAN THEY DO NOT OR STUDY BUT THEY HAVE BEEN BRIEFED BY ILLITERATE MULLAHS WHO DO NOT ANY EDUCATIONAL DEGREE FOR TEACHING OR FOR UNDERSTANDING OF ANY BOOK AT ALL.CAN SIMPLY EXPLAIN HOW DOES GEERT WILDERS HATE MUSLIMS NOT BY SAYING BUT SAYING SOME GIVING US CONVINCING REASONS.
IF THEY HATE ANY ONE NOT EVEN MUSLIM WHY WOULD THEY LET YOU IN THEIR COUNTRIES……NOT TO DENY YOU IN SAUDI ARABIA OR ANY MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
MUSLIMS HATE MUSLIMS …. CAN ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY TAKE A THOUSANDS OF PAKISTANIS INTO THEIR COUNTRIES NOT ANY MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRY.IF YOU KNEW KORAN YOU WOULD NEVER SPEAK LIKE THIS IF YOU READ GOSPEL YO WILL KNOW TRUTH.. ASLAM.O.ALAIKUM..MEAN PEACE BE WITH YOU THAT IS JESUS USE TO SAY TO HIS DECIPLES WHEN APEARED TO THEM …THIS IS COPIED FROM GOSPEL…IF YOU READ GOSPEL YOU WILL KNOW…PEACE ..REAL PEACE….
EYE FOR EYE OR TOOTH FOR TOOTH CANNOT BE PEACE…..BUT IF SOME ONE SLAPS ON YOUR ONE CHEEK TURN OTHER ONE AS WELL…HE SAID DO NOT FACE EVIL..IF SOME ONE TAKES YOUR SHIRT GIVE HIM YOUR COAT AS WELL…..GIVE LOAN TO ONE WHO CANNOT RETURN….LOVE EVERY ONE AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF….THERE IS SO MUCH IF READ IT. BUT DO NOT BE IGNORANT AND SPEAK IN PUBLIC…MOHD SAID KNOWLEDGE IS GOOD..HE SAID GO TO CHINA FOR IT ….GOSPEL ANJEEL IS AVAIBLE IN HOLLAND ALSO WHERE YOU LIVE.
YOU DO NOT LOVE NON MUSLIMS…CHRISTIANS, JEWS, HINDUS ETC…..KILL THEM BEG THEM FOR ASYLUM BUT YOU GET YOUR STATUS OR PASSPORT TRY TO TAKE THEIR COUNTRY..MAKE NO GO AREAS FOR THEM IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES
IS THAT PEACE FUL OR IS THAT YOUR ISLAM..NAME MEANS NOTHING BUT ACTS OR DEEDS…OPEN YOUR EYES WIDE AND SEE ALL OVER THE WORLD …WITH YOUR MUSLIMS YOU WILL SEE MORE EVERY DAY…GOD HAS TO DO IT BEACAUSE ONLY HE IS CAPABLE TO DO VEERY THING…GOD IS ALL MIGHTY…..YOU CANNOT SEE BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND FOLDED BY GOD HIMSELF…..WILDERS MAY BE A LITTLE FLAME TO YOU BUT…..IT ENOUGH FOR DARKNESS…TO EXPOSE… HIDDEN HATE OR DEVIL.READ ALL OF MY COMMENTS YOU WILL LEARN MUCH MORE ABOUT TRUTH….IT IS GOOD TO KNOW TRUTH.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:18 am
Islam was created by a mortal man named Muhammad. Muhammad was mentally unbalanced like Jim Jones or David Koresh or that guy who founded the Mormon church. After Jesus died and rose again, God stopped talking directly to people because they had the written word. Islam is a religion made by a man for the benefit of men. Women are treated worse than animals. Islam and Muslims are a cancer that need to be cut out. Good for Geert Wilders. At least someone has the balls to speak out against Islam. Good for the BNP too.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Kaleb got all upside down!
Ironically Caleb is a hero in the old testament (bible people, I’m talking about bible) Hello!
Well, I believe there’s only one truth (even if I didn’t believe it would still be there!) Whatever “truth” is, it is the same for me, for you, for my neighbor, for your neighbor… “truth” doesn’t change because we change, “truth” doesn’t disappear because we don’t believe in it… relativism tells that I have a truth and you have your truth, he has his truth and she has hers too… Is that really ok? One day I got so confused with so many claims, so many different “truths” it was overwhelming! By that time believing in my heart that is a God, a Creator I prayed: “You know I’m confused, but I don’t want to be! You know I know nothing, there are so many truths out there!.. It is this possible? What truth is, I like this word and sure the concept of it… But I don’t know what truth is, and where to find it… So please, you know I’m talking to you, and if you do exist, how can I know? There are so many different opinions! And if you do exist, do you care for what happens here? Among us? Would you please do something and clarify my mind, and help me to understand what is going on with me and with the whole world? I need an answer… Any answer, I will take, even if I don’t like it… But I need to know that you responded me… (I was about 17/18 when I prayed similarly). Today I’m here to tell you that I got answers to my prayer and is simply that, yes! There is one God who knows all things, He knows my hearts, my thinking and even number of my hair… He knows when I sit, and When I walk, regardless my knowledge, He calls me by my name and I learned He has a plan for me, a plan of peace and prosperity in all areas of my life… A faithful God, a loving father Who revels Himself in the pages of the Bible, His beautiful, awesome, powerful Word… Get confused is not a crime, doubts happens to anyone… He saw I was troubled, but He also saw the sincerity in my heart! I really meant what I prayed. I’m so happy I found Him, and now He has me, and all my heart! Do I seem “crazy” to you? Thanks! I’m on the right way!
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 am
I watched the movie… I was open minded about dealing with the reality of what is happening in the world. I am a progressive, and I was awakened to the realization that if I wish it would go away, and pretend the muslims are a peaceful religion, that they will become one. Yes, I was a FOOL!!! I was too self impressed to accept the reality of what was happening for fear of being called INTOLERANT!! Well the muslims chopping off heads and blowing up innocent people do not care what I think. They will do what they plan to anyway. And if I am too weak, and ignorant to see it, I am a willing accomplice to their crimes. These are not honorable people that abide by the rules of a civilized society..PERIOD… We have a military and diplomatic means to address grievances. I say no to islam.. They are not ready to be recognized in a civilized world until they renounce what is in the Quaran, and adopt a more modern civilized approach. If they cannot, we need to send them back to their home countries and stop all aid. We can not tolerate their barbarian ways. I simply ask that other progressives grow a spine and stand up for “real” human rights. Islam stands for everything that an open minded liberal opposes. Their actions are truly wicked, and must be stopped. Prosecution for their crimes, rather than turning a blind eye is a must.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
I am a muslim my self, this video is well made, he putted all the shit that ever happned in one vid, and that should make peaple think muslims are bad? this guy will be Hitler 2.
you are think now and saying that cant, but listen.
1. he’s trying to trow every muslim out of holland and/or forbid the quran, and i already know he will win the politics because everyone now thinks the mislims are devils but when they at last trie to trow us out, there will be a fight b4 leaving, then what is holland gonna do when that happens? they will make the army take care of it,….. see what i’m trying to say? and i know this shit because i live in holland myself.
2. all the muslims will get united and it will only make things worse, there will be a lot of peaple getting killed just because a guy like this ugly bitch coulden’t shut his mouth.
3. the world will definetely be all muslims at last.
and btw. this will happen if this guy wont get killed b4 that day because dude,… he is hunted!!!!
September 26th, 2009 at 12:15 am
This film is very true. Islam WILL dominate this world. But, it will not dominate the world to come. It WILL have its reign for 7 years, and it will literally be hell on earth. But, at the end of that 7 years, the battle of Armegedeon will take place, and Islam WILL be wiped from the face of the earth, FOREVER! Jesus is the only way, the only truth, and the only light. NO MAN shall come unto the father except through him. There is only One true God, the GREAT I AM. God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. So, even so, come. Come on and take over the world you Islamic terriorist, because that means that Jesus is on the way. I do not fear anything you have to say, or anything you say you will do to my body. My body will die and return to the earth from which it was formed. But, my soul will live forever in eternity with Christ, and yours will live and burn in hell, forever, and ever and ever more. So COME…
September 28th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
What I find so absolutely amazing about Islam is the denial of documented facst. Here it is right in front of you and you worm your way pass logic and reason. It is like someone who commits a heinous murder and the evidence is in a huge pile sitting in front of them and STILL you defend the murderer! President Ahmadinejad of Iran denies the Jewish Holocaust ever happened! INCREDIBLE! The lies and deceptions of Islam go beyond logic and reason into the insane and irresponsible on a global level. You are brainwashed! For example, look at the beauty of a new born baby. So beautiful so created by a sensitive and caring God who designed a mother to tenderly care for it. When I read about the Allah of the Koran I could scarcely believe he would have the ability to have created something do lovely. Allah of the Koran is so mean and cruel that if he were to have created mankind, he wouldn’t of created a beautiful earth with all the incredible wonders. How could he? If Allah were God he would merely create a fiery hell and put mankind there right away as per his nature. This is evidence that Allah is not God. The God of the Bible who is Yahweh and whose Son is Yeshua have all the characteristics of the true God. a God who could create such wonders and beauty for mankind to enjoy. He is the true God. Yeshus died for your sins and if you believe truly in Him, He has the power to forgive all your sins. This menas that God, the true God is a God of love! Islam hacks their own people up into pieces. Yeshua shows mercy, Allah does not. Yeshua Ha’ Meschiach is God the Son who has the power to forgive sins and will show you mercy and light and eternal love to those who repent of their sins and seek Him for salvation.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Look i don’t know why people hate others when you don’t blive what they think is right. I mean Islam dosen’t do anything to harm Mr. Geert or others but all this haitrence and know even speaking it in public come on just grow up just b/c you have a freedem of speach it dosen’t mean you need to dump your shit every were as you like ok.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
who want to know Mohamed is a messenger or not
http://www.muslimvideo.com/tv/watch/9af1aeff6bb47299d96d/-Holy-Quran-:-Top-Scientists-Comments-on-Scientific-Miracles-in-the-Quran-*-#-Faith-and-Science
October 16th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
“Not all Muslims are like that”. True. But those that are have a destructive, obsessive, strident and ugly effect. Madness in fact. And madness has the single minded overpowering way of crushing the ‘quiet sane’.
In the West we simply do not want Islamisation. We do not want the Mad Muslim Minority to destroy our natural, comfortable and tolerant ways. It is hard for a developed community to believe that this frothing rhetoric, ranting hatred and horror response is for real. But it is, as recent history and this film has shown.
It is our right, yes it is, to criticise Islam not only for its many mediaeval views and cruel reaction to any criticism, but also because, it is Just Not Us. Burqha Bye Bye.
No Islamisation of the non Muslims…..
October 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
I think the movie is full of shit. The Dutch producer does not even know how to interpretate the quraan. Seems to me this movie took a couple of hours to put together plus all the muslim preachers are not even known who they are, propable actors for his so called documentary… come on people, stop the ignorance, every religion has extremism in them, some are very extreme and some just respect the fact they were born in their religion.. i this this dutch ass is an extremist, a racist who does not believe in any race other than his own (watever race that might be) .. too bad his mind is limited to one culture and accepting other culture is too hard for him.. I piety his childhood that has left him mind with limitation. I hope u people out there don’t do the same coz no matter wat happens WE ALL LIVE TOGETHER AND WAT COMES ALONG OUR WAY WILL SURELY COME ALONG YOUR WAY.. enjoy this comedy coz i surely will not let it ruin my day.
October 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Crappymovie, it’s people like you that stifle debate. Actually what planet are you on? To make a point, Geert Wilders is not actually racist, but wants to talk about the loss of identify in the Netherlands which is exactly what is happening in the UK and the preference awarded to immigrants over the indigenious population.
October 18th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Fact: to the hundreds that kindly commented on the movie so far, whether pro or con: it is you who will be the catalyst for the inevitable, irrevocable, catastrophic confrontation that we are heading straight into. Remember: It take two to Tango.
The chaotic state of affairs in the world today fueled by radical and fundamentalist ideas, whether far left or far right, liberal or conservative, theistic or atheistic is far bigger than this small blemish that is being addressed today.
I have resigned myself the the inevitable and accepted the consequences as fate. But for the few of you who are genuinely interested in a real and everlasting solution, I advise you to rehash history and see what went wrong with these people you are referring to as “Crazy, Radical Muslims” , after all we the west ruled them for eons. What happened there? Why were we there in the first place? What did we leave behind? If you manage to reach the correct answer to all these questions, I assure you, you will begin to see the frustration and the resentment in their hearts as well as understand the cause of the maligned ideas in their heads. When westerners travels to the East, they go there to make money lured by the many bounties of that land, Oil, Gold, Money and most can’t wait to come back home to the land of the free. When Easterners comes to the West, they are looking for refuge and solace from years of oppression and maltreatment by their own dysfunctional governments and societies. These very governments and societies are the brain child of our own colonial rulers who left them in tatters in the hands of ruthless, incompetent rulers who were placed there solely to protect our interests and make sure that the bounties and revenues continue to flow while the rest of the population rots in social disintegration.
If anyone is genuinely interested in a solution, they will have to attack the root of the problem. Everything must change with respect to these societies. They should have genuine governments. They should have better lives in their own countries. They should have social services. Corruption MUST be uprooted from their every facet of life. It must be recognized by the west that we owe part of what we are today to the suffering of these people. It is time for selfless payback. The west is famous for charitable overtures. This will be the grandest of all, and what’s more, is that it is mutually beneficial.
I have taught myself to follow these four steps in solving any problem:
1- Admit to the existence of the problem (half the solution).
2- Define the problem.
3- Identify the solution.
4- Apply the solution.
Let us stop addressing this vital matter allopathically. Treating the symptoms will get us nowhere. Let us go to the root of the problem. Define it. Search for a REAL solution and apply it wholeheartedly and selflessly, knowing that for once we are doing something good for this world in which we live and which we all share.
October 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I am a religious studies teacher and i can tell you that almost everything in this film is FAKE why does he only show a bit of the verse??? Because CONTEXT is what matters and he knows that the contect is totally different.
Furthermore there are extremist in all religions, just look at the IRA… are they any better? they dont follow the Qur’an but say they kill people in the name of God, these where Christians!
October 27th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Hi, everyone. This is a pure joke… only idiots can fall for such a thing. If any gathers video’s, pics, speeches, or anything similar for ANY believe in the world, it would come out the same.
This is a joke… I don’t even know if they will allow my words to be posted… they can take our lives, but they will never take OUR FREEEEEDOOM 
Why didn’t the movies maker also added when Mohammed said: “My nation (The islamic nation) will divide into 72 sects, all of them are in hell except for one” The companions asked him which one, he said “The path of me and my companions” and Moahmmed’s path and history doesn’t have him celebrating by cutting himself with a sword as shown in the movie, killing incoccent as in the movie, treating women in a bad way as seen in the movie, killing hostages as seen in the movie.
The verses of the quran shown are verses for those who fights and kills Muslims, not prepare an army and attak people as the movie showing. Those people in the movies are the bad example and some of them are not even bad, they understood things wrong like that dutch guy who thinks he should kill his parents if they commit adultery,
The Jews mentioned by people and the quran is about zionist, not Judaism, or why did Mohammed lived and dealt with Jews. This is a pure joke, people who do not know islam will feel hate and that’s the purpose of the movie. It’s like showing you some rednecks spitting in cups, among with showing you porn with american language, and some americans junkies and psychos and put it in a movie to show to people in Africa, what would they say about america?? A bunch of Disgusting junkies and whores right?
If islam was that bad then why is the number of muslims increasing in Netherlands as shown in the movie, because dutch most dutch love blood and killing???
October 28th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Good luck Geert in stopping or at least decelerating the Islamization of Europe.
October 31st, 2009 at 2:14 am
ISLAM IS THE BEST SOLUTION
I M A MUSLIM.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:39 am
as i see in everywhere we talking & never listen to other now you open fire on muslims as usual for same reason that used since starting of human civilization that they are different than you as same as extra muslims who’s doing a same against every one .
at this movie i see the parts of quran in this movie is very good selection if you want to show all mulims as murderers even using the even a diffrent meaning of arabic words and ignore too many of quran parts that order mulims to be merciful with everyone well your points is clear you only see the murderers on tv online but ask your self this question if all muslims are a human bombs that wishes to kill every other who’s has another opinion will it be only this attacks by qa’ada & few of radical mulims groups ? you say over than 54000000 are over euorpe if all are bombers & killers than it’s could gain a loses close to ww2 .
so you want or don’t like to there is mulims are not the same way you show in your movie there is radical mulims like there is radicals in everything else radical christians had did alot of murder tragedies everywhere a same as mulims did so let it to be clear we all in same line against of radicalism not against this idea or that one it’s doesn’t matter what i think or what i believe it all about understand the other there is alot of parts of quran & hadeeth (prophet mohamed’s instructions) that ban the force in anything specially in religion like ( no force in religion ) ( Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the better way. Lo! thy Lord is Best Aware of him who strayeth from His way, and He is best aware of those who go aright.)
and many more any one who have enough time to read quran will find that it’s never order people to kill people for no reason just beacuse thay are not a same like us .
i would only say in the end i am muslim, arabic, & my roots are back to prophet mohamed & i never been in euorpe but i live with too many europeans as my freinds till nowday no matter what the diffrances between us i don’t drink alcohol or adultery i don’t have to do that & i don’t force anyone to stop doing that ( Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation) that is my islam .
you still think all muslims are murderer than that your problem i think …..
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
I invite all who disagree with muslim way´s living to read all the Quraan but really all of it and then to came back to this movie and make a jugement.
every scene of this movie is selected on purpus without arguments without context.
Geert Do what you have to do i DON´T WANT TO BE LIKE YOU NEITHER MY CHILDREN NEITHER PEOPLE WHO ARE TURNING MUSLIMS IN EUROPE EVERY DAY. YOU CAN´T STOP THE LIGHT OF ALLAH ISLAM IS THE RIGHT WAY.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
This is not the true Islam, and really I should not be in position to defend the religion, however, he who seek the truth will reach for it.
One true face of Islam could be found in Egypt, where Muslims live in total harmony with copts (Egyptian Christians) although of the international publicity of discrimination which is totally nonsense.
Geert may have some fears, we all have the same fears from the fanatics and extremists, not only from the Muslim fanatics, but any other religion fanatics, even soccer games fanatics.
a similar movie could be produced about any other religion, but the truth shall remain present around us all.
Islam promotes the well being of all creatures, peace and prosperity, so many Western thinkers have mentioned this in their writings or novels.
My country suffered from extremists and fanatics, still we all are Muslims, but we do not accept violence against innocent peaceful people -what ever are their believes-.
The bottom line is whatever is or shall be your religion or even mine, all humans should be free without causing any trouble or problems to others, and this is stated in all religions and human laws.
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November 8th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Someone commented: “I see 54 million Muslims in Europe, but I dont see all as radicalists. Most are normal people”….Wrong! When the final call to jihad is sounded, these people, the so-called ‘good’ or ‘moderate’ muslims will not be allowed to ignore the call. The islamic war machine and it’s leaders will insist that the faithful stand up and fight the infidel. The army, therefore, is in place; millions ready to fight, against the Christian, the Jew, the Pagan, the Hindu, the Buddhist, the Sikh, the Humanist, the gay and the straight non-muslim. If the muslim was happy to walk side by side with the non-muslim then the images in the video would not be there; but the truth is there, in the video, it’s images and it’s words…”freedom go to hell”, “death to non-muslims”, “behead those that oppose allah”…the fight was first with Nazism, then the fight was with communism, now the fight is against a totalitarian, utopian, expansionist regime that if not checked is going to plunge this world into a 7th Century bloodbath that is not going to end. There will be no turning back, there will be no democratic process left. Just islam. I am not in politics, nor am I an academic, I am just a man in the street; but since 9/11 an 7/7 I have been trying to understand and seek the truth. Well, it doesn’t take a university degree or a life time in politics to see the truth. Islam is evil. There is no peace and no tolerance. When women are stoned to death, when children are taught ‘how’ to behead, when men are executed in the street for ‘having a different opinion’, when a thief has his hand chopped off with no option to rehabilitate, when women are so brainwashed into believing that being covered head to toe is giving them freedom, when young girls are circumcised, it’s clear that islam is just plain evil. Offended are you, tough. I’m offended by your arrogance to assume that I want your ideology thrust down my throat. Islam has no place in the world as it cannot live side by side with the world. Oh, and by the way I have read the koran and I’m reading the hadiths. My conclusion is simple: the message of mohammed is this - the “world for allah, nothing less”. This is the remit of islam, so any islam apologist and all muslims that decry this video and say that real islam is about peace and love and fairy-cakes is just lying because YOU know it isn’t. I woke up and the veil was lifted from my eyes. I won’t be ignorant again. I’m ready and when the time comes, and it will be here soon by the way of things, I’ll be ready. I’ll be fighting for truth, for peace, for democracy, for freedom.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Christian terrorism is same violent & fundamentalist when compared to Islamic terrorism on point to point basis.
World knows onslaught of Islamic terrorism every well on the other hands Christians are very cleverly hided & suppressed their involvement in Terrorism .
Recent examples of Christian terrorisms are SriLanka, African continent. In africa Christian missionaries are spearheading attacks on native cultures who refuses to get converted.
In Nagaland , Manipur, Sikkim, Assam,Tripura States of India Christian terrorism is prevalent for last 40 years. Christian missionaries has used terrorism to run parallel govt in those states and forcing native tribals to get converted or get killed by christian terrorist.
These Above all will not be reported by any Christian media in any corner of the
world.
In Other parts of India, Christian churches are helping muslim terrorist to hide and supply arms & informations.
Christians believe in one simple theory -
“Destroy the native system & impose christiantity”
FITNA Shows HalF truth ONLY
DOES DIRECTOR , PRODUCER HAS GUTS to COVER THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIAN TERRORISM?
WILL DIRECTOR SHOW WHERE DOES THE OPIUM GOWN IN AFGHANISTAN,COLUMBIA GOES?
WHO MANUFACTURES THE AK47 FOR TERRORISTS?
WHY HALF OF POPULATION IN PALESTIN SLEEPS HUNGRY YET THEY HAVE BULLETS TO FIRE?
WORLD IS IN DEEP ECONOMIC SHIT YET CHURCHS HAS BILLIONS TO POWER ZILLION OF DOLLARS FOR CONVERSION OF NON CHRISTIANS?
November 11th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Islam belief is a crazy , dangerous and very oldfashion belief. I agree with MR. Geert Wilders for 100%. This man has absolutly my vote for the next elections in the Netherlands. More then 2 milion people already support the P.V.V. in the Netherlands. We absolutly must stop the agressive Islam belief in the western countries.
Many thanks in advance for reading my comment.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Thank’s a lot to Mr Wilders for that truthful movie.
I do like people that base they words on the pure facts.
God bless you Sir!
November 16th, 2009 at 7:06 am
I just watched the first two minutes of this film and I already know it is a load of garbage. Allow me to finish the first verse this person quotes:
“Muster against them all the military strength and cavalry that you can afford so that you may strike terror into the hearts of your enemy and the enemy of Allah. [Here's the part the editor left out:]
“IF THE ENEMY IS INCLINED TOWARDS PEACE, DO MAKE PEACE WITH THEM.” Surah 8, Verse 61.
Read the Quran as it is written, not as you wish it was.
November 26th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Please watch the below video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq4sZevaSr4
I hope europe will rage a war on islamization and make them history. India is also facing the same situation.
I also request all concerned europeans to join the same movement in India also.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 am
All religions have their own garbage, see the Israel and USA terror in the Middle East
December 8th, 2009 at 12:32 am
The point of this film is very simple. Not all muslims are like this no, but, there is an uprising of extremists and anyone who sits there and ignors this is a moron. The movie does not want to eliminate muslims as a people, but knock down these religious fundamentalist idiots who creat the bad name for the rest. Fact of the matter is, there is an alarming increase of fundamentalists who are promoting violence, hate, and sexism and that is what needs to stop now!
December 8th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Poor Chanakya… Need some research… And watch what to swallow!
December 8th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Does Zack and his quran has the recipe for peace?
December 8th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
I’m hoping that today’s normal people will wake up and be actively concerned about near future… What are their children and grandchildren will be left with?
As a born again Christian I’m living to soon see my savior coming on the clouds just as my bible says… And seeing what is happening around the world is frightening by also exciting for He is near!
MARANATHA LORD!
December 9th, 2009 at 12:56 am
Lyndsey and Rick (330 & 331) got it all right!!! Glad to meet you guys!
What about some research? It doesn’t matter what you believe… Do some reasoning… Go to the books… Get facts… Be reasonable, please!
What kind of a god would be responsible for koran for God sake?
The God of Creation is LOVE, He not only love, He is LOVE, merciful, faithful and kind. He’s unbelievable AWESOME! What would make people so blind? I would understand people who was born in the middle east and never leave that area, be a muslin because one wouldn’t know better. But how can a person be willing to live under such oppression with sharia law for example and still be a muslin? This is out of my mind!
About 5 thousand years ago… God (the God from bible) called Abraham out of the pagan environment he used to live and made a covenant with him, Abraham already in his 75 years was married but his wife Sara wasn’t able to bear a child… Among God’s promises to Abraham was Isaac… Years went by and they want to “help” (our ways to do things) God with the child, so Sara offered her Egyptian maid to Abraham so she could bear their child… God doesn’t need our help! Hagar (the maid) did bear a child… Ishmael (the father of Arabian nations). God never approved all that… After 13 years Sara gave birth to Isaac (father of the nation of Israel)… I fully understand God in this situation although is pretty hard to explain, the covenant God made with Abraham is through Isaac not Ishmael… Hagar was sent with her son into the desert and the bible says that God made a beautiful promised for Hagar regarding her son Ishmael (Genesis 21:17-19) however God also said his hand would be against the world and the world against him, not because God cursed him, but because of his heart… Does this explain so much hatred?
You will find this very interesting history in the book of Genesis in your bible starting chapter 12…
In the Service of His Heart, through love and faith in Jesus!
December 14th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
You hate Islam because you don’t know the essence of Al-Qur’an and how peaceful this religion is. Open your mind and search the truth within your heart and you will know that Islam is a perfect religion.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:05 am
For the reasoning guys… GARRY & JELRAK
IT IS WRITTEN:
“Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God and there is no other; I am God and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. ISAIAH 46:9-10
For this is what the Lord says: He Who created the heavens, He is God; He Who fashioned and made the earth, He founded it; He did not created it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited - He says: I am the Lord, and there is no other.
ISAIAH 45:18
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow His precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise. Psalm 111:10
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. Proverbs 1:7
“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:11-13
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities - His eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles… They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - Who is forever praised… Romans 1:18-25
Can we see the wind blowing? No. Can we then say the wind doesn’t exist? No. We can feel it…
I can’t see God, at least not with my physical eyes. But I know He exists, I can feel Him, His love, His power, His actions, His passion, His protection etc, etc…
LOTS OF REASONING HERE
December 27th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
FIRS, ET AL.& TAKE THEIR WOMEN AS SLAVES!!! ALSO LOOKUP ‘AL FITNA’, ISLAM-DOES PRECISLY THAT, ASKING MUSLIMS TO KILL NON- BELEIVERS, KAAA- ‘AL-TAKHIYAH’, ‘KUFRAA’, ‘KAAF IR WOMEN’, ‘SLAVE WOMEN’, ‘JAZIYA’ THERE IS AN END LESS LITANY OF PERMITTED WRONG DOING IN ISLAM AGAINST NON-BELIEVERS. HUMAN RIGHTS, PEACE, BROTHERHOOD, MARRIAGE ET AL IS ONLY FOR BELIEVERS-MUSLIMS, ONLY– OTHERS DON’T MATTER. HIGH FLOWING IDEALS OF LOVE/ RESPECT/ BROTHERHOOD ONLY AMONGST THE BELIEVERS…. OTHERS DON’T MATTER!!! ISLAM HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST CON GAME OF ALL TIMES….. SUCCESSFUL PRINCIPALLY DUE TO EXTREMELY LIBERAL/ MALE FRIENDLY SEXUAL POSTULATES. YOU CAN MARRY 4, COHABIT WITH ANY NO OF NON BELIEVERS/ SLAVE WOMEN– WAH WAH — BAHISHT RIGHT ON EARTH FOR MUSLIM MEN, & WOMEN … PURDAH NASHEEN UNDER WRAPS TO PRODUCE JIHADEES.
January 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Everyone involved in the manufacture of this immorality and stupidity will punished after the end of his life is transient and the afterlife in hell for them
Telling lies about Islam and you do not know about the massacre of the Jews and the terrorism of the Palestinians and no one speaks
Do not you have conscience or a sense of your injustice, and ignorant of the facts or do you know
Shame on you
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:25 am
Maybe someone can clear up something for me….if allah is in all things…..knows all..etc……would it not be a great sin against allah to destroy anyone who does not believe as you do………or anything for that matter…if allah is all powerful, why in the world would a puny human be required to carry out any action for allah………………i am just trying to understand…..also, would someone who is forced into islam be just as devout as one who willingly follows islam…..how can belief be forced…it is a personal internal aspect…..can anything forced be true…..
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:28 am
interesting………………no responses to my inquiries…..now why is that
January 5th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
It was a fatal mistake to make a movie defaming Islam in a horrible way like that.There are some radical Muslims but not all Muslims are extremists.Remember how Christians got outraged at the movie:LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST,made by ZIONIST FILM PRODUCERS!.So we must not attack religion.Suppose someone made a bad movie about Holland or The Dutch Queen,would the Dutch Be Happy?.Islam is a good religion.For that reason,Princess Diana converted to Islam.
January 8th, 2010 at 3:47 am
Sadly, the only way to defeat Islam is to expel it from Europe. Take off your crosses and leave them in your homes. We must set aside the goodwill towards men. It has gotten us nowhere. Jesus will be there again when our homes are safe.
It is time to remove the Muslim from our land. Not as Christian or Atheist, but as European; as Welsh, as Irish, as French, as Finnish, as Italian, as Icelandic people.
Burn every mosque to the ground. Let the hateful factories of murderous intentions fall. Send every Muslim; man, woman and child, back to their “Holy Land” in a boat. They cannot be trusted in planes.
Let them remember what their slavers did to the Africans as they sit in the cramped boats en route to foreign shores. Let them feel the burning shame they have imposed upon others.
Kill all militants without trial or hesitation. Too long they have abused Western liberties while denying them to others. After all Muslims are gone, guard your borders. Do not allow any passage into your lands. Learn from history. It is a mistake we cannot bare to repeat.
They shall not have Europe. They already own the Middle East, half of Asia, and half of Africa. We will not abide these murderous people in our homelands.
January 8th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
A powerful film, and I’m glad to see more people speaking out against the glaringly obvious threat that is before us.
In the 1930’s the overwhelming majority of people in Nazi Germany were decent, respectable, intelligent, hardworking people. It only took the small Nazi elite, inspired by an evil, inspirational and charismatic figure to unleash terrible suffering upon the world.
When examining Islam, we must take this perspective, that the majority of Muslims are likely good, decent people - but they are allowed to fall victim to a charismatic, inspirational individual or small group of individuals, the amount of suffering the world will know will be devastating.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Allow me to finish the first verse this person quotes in the film:
“Muster against them all the military strength and cavalry that you can afford so that you may strike terror into the hearts of your enemy and the enemy of Allah. [Here's the part the editor left out:]
“IF THE ENEMY IS INCLINED TOWARDS PEACE, DO MAKE PEACE WITH THEM.” Surah 8, Verse 61.
Read the Quran as it is written, not as you wish it was
ALLAH HU AKBAR
ALLAH IS GREAT
think about it
January 16th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Note:not ALL muslims do this, but it is alot who do, ya muslims/arabs/turks/afghans are massinvading Europe, and other countries. It’s bad but we just need to stand up to them, and were safe.
Soon we’ll have Imams’ doing the trials for everyone instead of a real law system, and that’s bad people…
January 19th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
The thought process these radicals go by is totally idiotic!! I don’t care what religion you go by, far as I’m concerned religion is a way of control! Anyways put religion aside, if you have any commonsense in your head you do not impose harm against anyone, PERIOD!! Now you get these mentally ill misguided people who believe that blowing themselves up and doing harm to other people who don’t believe in what they do, is totally disgusting and they should be confined to a 5×5 cell. You will never get rid of these morons who believe in this crap but it is our duty to uphold our freedom and quality of life.
DO NOT let these radicals infect our countries in a way in will harm us from here on in!!
January 20th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
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February 2nd, 2010 at 6:29 am
The acts portrayed in this film are atrocious to any sentient human being; unfortunately the purveyors of the acts in this particular film are not sentient. They are purposely ill informed and ill educated puppets of privileged manipulators; as are purveyors of any atrocities, the manipulators merely manipulate – no strap-on bombs for them. We need ubiquitous freedom of education for all in our little world. The fact that atrocities were committed in the past by other faiths neither balances nor condones the acts of atrocities committed now by others. All people need to be educated in how to think for them self. Until that time the manipulators in every corner of the globe prevail.
If we will not provide the means nor the ability for people to think and question for themselves but still want to rid ourselves of the insanity then here is a suggestion; have all peoples of all the religions of the world pray to/ask of their own gods, simultaneously, to provide all humanity with guidance in a very real and ubiquitously understandable form on how we should live our lives; our caveat to these gods must be that until such times as we receive this ubiquitously understandable and acceptable answer/message/instruction, we will live in peace with one another.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Anybody who thinks Islam is not a threat has not taken enough time to educate themselves on Islam. Looking at the TV Arab broadcasts in the middle east should be enough, but in a day of the internet people are without excuse. Islam is a very intolerant religion filled with hate for all non-muslims. When I heard of this trial aimed at the director who loved his country enough to show them the side of Islam that most muslims would not want others to see. I will never visit any country in the EU because of this trial, and learning what I have about the EU bowing down to the will of the muslim population. I hear talk of moderate muslims BUT the fact is they are as USELESS as the German silent majority during the time of Hitler. Get ready for the next Holocaust people, we have countries with cowards as leaders and a population under them to match who look the other way just as leaders and their populace did when Hitler mad his hate speeches.
February 7th, 2010 at 5:09 am
In the US, our Founding Fathers were indeed wise men and well ahead of their time. They provided us the 2nd Amendment. Should the time come when it is necessary to defend ourselves, our families, our culture and country, we will stand ready to do whatever needs to be done. 9-11 opened our eyes and as a result, we will never accept Islam as it has been currently constituted. The EU has been disarmed and they have been sold out by their politicians. They have no way to repel the violence done to them as they rely on the political system. The concept of self-defense is alive and well in America. We continue to be vigilant and prepared. You have been warned.
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